200NL: KK vs c/c donk turn

[d0zer]

villain 36/16 over 25

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($203.00)
UTG+1 Bidicha ($200.00)
CO ajfennewald ($241.75)
BTN magicjaybee ($235.60)
SB Mc.Fire ($388.55)
BB MrOnePutt ($204.00)

Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises to $8, 3 folds, Mc.Fire calls $7, 1 fold

Flop: ($18, 2 players)
Mc.Fire checks, Hero bets $14, Mc.Fire calls $14

Turn: ($46, 2 players)
Mc.Fire bets $25, $25 to Hero ($181)?

I think a raise is pretty standard here...kinda wondering how many FDs are actually in his range when he takes this line though. Seems more of a Tx line than a FD line. Even so I suppose there's a lot of rivers we don't like for a Tx hand.

[bjsaust]

More FDs than you'd think, in fact when he does this thats immediately what I assume a bad player has. Maybe something like 7X

[Galapogos]

Definitely raise, it's possible he turned more equity and quite often he's just a tard with a pair of tens that will call.

[bspahn]

the assumption here is if you raise you are never ever folding.
the question is how much will he put in on a FD, or if he has Tx type hand. if i raise here i might make it a relatively small raise i think and mostly be looking to avoid the 3rd flush card on the river.

[griffey24]

$85 please...

[XTR1000]

we´d never raise/fold?

[ATOTHEC101]

we´d never raise/fold?

No, we raise to call it off, folding would not be good.

[oskar]

we´d never raise/fold?

In my experience this is either Tx, idiotic floats, or a draw... sometimes bottom pair.
I'd make it 100, but I'd put more faith in griffeys bet sizing ability

[griffey24]

we´d never raise/fold?

In my experience this is either Tx, idiotic floats, or a draw... sometimes bottom pair.
I'd make it 100, but I'd put more faith in griffeys bet sizing ability

It's a close spot in terms of sizing. 100 isn't bad, but I think $85 gives him sooome semblance of fold equity, to ship his draw instead of just calling OOP or folding OOP.

we´d never raise/fold?

why do we want to turn kings into a bluff?