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$10 AT facing turn check/shove

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  1. #1

    Default $10 AT facing turn check/shove

    Villain in this hand is limping somewhat wide ep. No reads post flop.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #12474037779: Daily Double - B (92128163), Table 39 - 120/240 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:52:34 ET - 2009/05/27
    Seat 1: RonArtest10 (2,845)
    Seat 2: zeinutz (9,142)
    Seat 3: gethsemane (11,075)
    Seat 4: AddingAlpha (6,155)
    Seat 5: conor_mw (6,500)
    Seat 6: sh4wn33 (2,680)
    Seat 7: Hero (10,170)
    Seat 8: OneGodson (2,106)
    Seat 9: MASTEROFMEN (8,380)
    RonArtest10 posts the small blind of 120
    zeinutz posts the big blind of 240
    The button is in seat #9
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Ah Ts]
    gethsemane calls 240
    AddingAlpha folds
    conor_mw folds
    sh4wn33 folds
    Hero raises to 720
    OneGodson folds
    MASTEROFMEN folds
    RonArtest10 folds
    zeinutz folds
    gethsemane calls 480
    *** FLOP *** [Th Jh 4c]
    gethsemane checks
    Hero bets 1,200
    gethsemane calls 1,200
    *** TURN *** [Th Jh 4c] [7c]
    gethsemane checks
    Hero bets 2,880
    gethsemane raises to 9,130, and is all in
    Hero?
  2. #2
    fold.

    I would just check the turn hope you can show down cheap. You have no idea what he has & people who limp a lot probably also slow play a lot, even with hands/boards that do not warrant it. Even if best case he has 'just' a FD there are still a ton of cards he can hit/bluff. If you had nothing bet/folding would be OK.

    I would also just fold pre flop with no post reads and a bunch of people still to act, although I would raise if you were suited. If you raise make it at least 4x to hopefully get HU (you do not want 4 way pots with ATo) and maybe a fold but UTG limpers are pretty much never folding. Maybe he has Asxs but usually he will have a hand with good equity vs you anyway. I actually think it's better to raise a tight limper since he'll have a PP almost always and give up if he misses (but again make it 4x).
  3. #3
    I like the flop cbet since theres plenty of value with 2nd pair top kicker on such a drawy board. Also, limp/callers generally are passive with draws, so you don't really have to worry about getting check/raised off the best hand. If you think your opponent is aggressive here, betting flop is probably not the best. I agree about checking turn, it seems a little too thin, but I understand the need to protect vs draws. If you think about his whole range rather than just draws, you dont have much of an edge if you get looked up again on the turn
  4. #4
    I think this is a "played fine, now fold the turn." Actually, check-folding any non-heart turn might be better. This is a nasty board for one-pair hands vs. a habitual limper.

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