High-blind limpers (Party 10+1)

[Wolle]

I'm never sure when to push against limpers when the blinds are getting high. Here's one from Party. Both villains were loose-passive.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 200/400 Blinds (5 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

MP (t2600)
Hero (BB) (t3890)
UTG (t6035)
SB (t3100)
Button (t4375)

Hero's M: 6.48

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, A
1 fold, MP calls t400, 1 fold, SB calls t200, Hero ???

[WeaselT]

They are both passive, they both limped I think there is a good chance they both go away if you shove. But they are both pretty short also but even if they call its probly likely youd be ahead going into it. Push is good i think.

[mykeyFinn]

With three in the hand A9s is a pretty good hand. Even if they call you probally have the best hand, especially if they are limping pre flop

[tbdbitl]

With blinds this high (all of you have less than 10 Big Blinds), I am coming in raising if not shoving when entering a hand. With this passive play you may be able to take them down without an ai shove pre-flop.

[FernAAndes]

thanks for helps guys

[baudib]

With blinds this high (all of you have less than 10 Big Blinds), I am coming in raising if not shoving when entering a hand. With this passive play you may be able to take them down without an ai shove pre-flop.

Don't standard raise with your SPR here, shove.

[Wolle]

I ended up shoving this, both villains called and showed QQ and AKo, respectively. I didn't suck out.

I just thought I'd post it for a tilt check, as I haven't been running good lately.

[Trons]

well, from what I've seen, in the stars 10+1, at this stage, limps usually mean suited/unsuited connectors and/or gappers. A raise will usually get them off their hands. Having said that, against 2 players, I'm not sure I like the shove here because imo, you're basically playing for an A or a flush, because if the 9 hits, but it's not TP, you may still be in trouble to draws, over cards on the flop and such. With no way to tell where you are.

With 2 other players in the hand, with no reads on them, I'm probably just checking PF and seeing what the flop brings. I'm going with any A, any TP-9 and any FD but not likeing the last 3 options.

I suggest caution here not because of your stack size, but because of field size and relative stack size. Your 3rd in chips and very close to 2nd. While blinds can eat you up quickly, I think there are better positions to get your chips in the middle. I'd rather push j9s from the button when folded to then A9 here with 2 other shorter stacks in the hand.

One of things I didn't notice in the OP was whether or not these guys had been open shoving before this hand. If this is the first time you've seen the short stacks limp, then warning bells may go off that this is not a normal play and proceed with caution.

If they have been limp/folding quite a bit, then I don't mind the shove nearly as much. IMO, at this stage in the tourney, there shouldn't be a whole lot of limped pots pre.

[surviva316]

loose/passive is a nice read but you should be treating a 67/12 player and a 22/0 player who limp/calls all ins w QJo and AA very differently. it is far more profitable to shove into one of these players than it is the other, but you should be able to figure that out logically yourself