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Can't figure out why SNG Wiz wants me to push here?

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  1. #1

    Default Can't figure out why SNG Wiz wants me to push here?

    PokerStars Game #29273283191: Tournament #171163679, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/06/11 22:17:47 PT [2009/06/12 1:17:47 ET]
    Table '171163679 1' 10-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: Cary Who (1580 in chips)
    Seat 2: therorschach (1195 in chips)
    Seat 3: jdsas (6185 in chips)
    Seat 4: ranocchioR (1265 in chips)
    Seat 6: qazikm2000 (1340 in chips)
    Seat 7: Luigi7104 (950 in chips)
    Seat 10: I am aMan24 (2485 in chips)
    I am aMan24: posts small blind 100
    Cary Who: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to I am aMan24 [Qh Qc]
    therorschach: folds
    jdsas: folds
    ranocchioR: folds
    qazikm2000: raises 1140 to 1340 and is all-in
    Luigi7104: calls 950 and is all-in
    I am aMan24: folds
    Cary Who: folds
    Uncalled bet (390) returned to qazikm2000
    *** FLOP *** [2h 4d 3d]
    qazikm2000 said, "what"
    qazikm2000 said, "really"
    *** TURN *** [2h 4d 3d] [2c]
    *** RIVER *** [2h 4d 3d 2c] [5c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    qazikm2000: shows [Ac Tc] (a straight, Ace to Five)
    Luigi7104: shows [Kc Jh] (a pair of Deuces)
    qazikm2000 collected 2200 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 2200 | Rake 0
    Board [2h 4d 3d 2c 5c]
    Seat 1: Cary Who (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 2: therorschach folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: jdsas folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: ranocchioR folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: qazikm2000 showed [Ac Tc] and won (2200) with a straight, Ace to Five
    Seat 7: Luigi7104 (button) showed [Kc Jh] and lost with a pair of Deuces
    Seat 10: I am aMan24 (small blind) folded before Flop

    qazikm was pushing pretty wide; i would say about 12-18% of his hands. Then Luigi was limping a lot too (30%+). So I get what SNG Wiz is saying in that I probably beat both of their ranges. But with their mutual all-in push/call, after the hand, I will be a clear third, and I just don't think it makes sense for me to risk my chips when there are two stacks that are only half of what I have.

    SnG Wiz:
    EqP: 22.03%
    EqF: 17.74%

    Even when I put both of their open % at 5, I still get a push. I'm beat by AA, KK, and its a coinflip against AK.
    Help please
  2. #2
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    I think the fact you only have 11 BBs left plays a big part.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
  3. #3
    Yeah, think about how short everyone is at this table. You have 11bbs and you're the 2nd stack out of 7!
    Think about it this way, you'd risk a little over 1/2 your stack with a premium hand with the chance of not only doubling up, but also knocking out 2 players, which would put you in a sweet position for the rest of the game. I don't see how you folded this.
    The 5% thing - you know there's more in the range than just AA, KK and AK right?
    5% = 88+, AJs+, KQs, AKo
    Stove--
    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 29.939% 28.18% 01.76% 6096989120 380631002.00 { 88+, AJs+, KQs, AKo }
    Hand 1: 40.122% 39.01% 01.11% 8441131088 239609804.00 { QQ }
    Hand 2: 29.939% 28.18% 01.76% 6096989120 380631002.00 { 88+, AJs+, KQs, AKo }
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    #1 The bluff call
    #2 The Drawing-Dead Value Bet
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  4. #4
    Wat wat wat wat wat, I am never ever EVER folding QQ in this spot. You have the third best starting hand in poker, do you really think that all that one or both of them can have is AA or KK?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortitude
    But with their mutual all-in push/call, after the hand, I will be a clear third, and I just don't think it makes sense for me to risk my chips when there are two stacks that are only half of what I have.
    Your reasoning makes no sense, you are way ahead of both of their ranges, this is an easy call. Who cares if you'll be third if you lose the hand when you're crushing their ranges.
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