$20+2 99 in the BB

[kstarm]

Limper was 37/10 over 100 hands and seemed loose tonight. Button is 20/10 over about 150 hands and I felt had a pretty good understanding of the game. My image is tight up until now. I am not too concerned about the limper as I have his range crushed. I thought villian's opening range would be fairly wide on the button, and his calling range something like 88+ AQ+. I was a little unsure on how to proceed. Calling seemed bad to me as I will be out of position. Re-raising is a little awkward with my stack though I think it looks stronger to some players then pushing. Pushing seemed a little excessive at the 25/50 level. Thoughts?

Thanks in advance.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20+$2 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP (t1110)
CO (t2020)
Button (t3095)
SB (t1180)
Hero (BB) (t2050)
UTG (t4045)

Hero's M: 27.33

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 9
1 fold, MP calls t50, 1 fold, Button bets t250, 1 fold, Hero ?,

[Qminator]

I'd just call hoping to hit a set It's too early in the SnG to risk al l of your chips.

[TLR]

I would probably reraise hoping to win the pot here, but I think calling is a valid move as well

[taipan168]

You sort of have odds to call and play for set value here, so that's probably what I'd do. Kind of an ugly spot however. Not sure I'd re-raise against a 20/10 since you're behind his range if it's 88+, AQ+:

equity win tie
Hand 0: 41.330% 40.43% 00.90% { 99 }
Hand 1: 58.670% 57.77% 00.90% { 88+, AQs+, AQo+ }

[JeffreyGB]

You have to get paid 100% of the time for this to even be marginally close on calling for set value. If he's as loose as you're indicating with his preflop raise, I suspect there are flops he doesn't stack off on.

I think I prefer a go-and-go here. Repop to ~900 and then shove any flop. Assuming you are confident that he only 4-bets with a monster, you can even get away if he 4-bets preflop (though it's a bit tough to exclude AK from his possible range...).

[mcatdog]

easy fold not close at allllll

[baudib]

The only argument I can see for calling is he's making a move on the donk limper, and he might be forced to play his hand face up if we call and the donk calls.

However, it's a disaster if donk shoves and we're faced with a 4-bet shove from the button.

And we're still in first position multiway.

So I think we either 3-bet or fold preflop.

[JeffreyGB]

easy fold not close at allllll

Folding does make an otherwise dicey spot ridiculously straightforward. I can see a strong argument for this.

[kstarm]

I think I prefer a go-and-go here. Repop to ~900 and then shove any flop. Assuming you are confident that he only 4-bets with a monster, you can even get away if he 4-bets preflop (though it's a bit tough to exclude AK from his possible range...).

I had thought about a similar line to this but putting in over 40% of my stack and then just letting it go if he comes over seems a bit rough. Also I thought it would be a bit transparent what I would be doing, as the only reasonable flop move after this would be to shove if called.

mcatdog wrote:
easy fold not close at allllll

I am still learning quite a bit about SNGs could someone give me a little of the reasoning behind snap folding here. Thanks

[JeffreyGB]

I had thought about a similar line to this but putting in over 40% of my stack and then just letting it go if he comes over seems a bit rough. Also I thought it would be a bit transparent what I would be doing, as the only reasonable flop move after this would be to shove if called.

If you're sure he only does this with an overpair, then getting away is still correct. If he will 4-bet AK, AQ, 88, then folding is definitely bad, which probably makes the raise bad as well.

mcatdog wrote:
easy fold not close at allllll

I am still learning quite a bit about SNGs could someone give me a little of the reasoning behind snap folding here. Thanks

When every other option sucks, just getting out of the hand completely is always an option.

[GatorJH]

Barring a VERY strong read I fold this every time.

[FlyingSaucy]

I was surprised to see JGB's response and agree with the fold.

First, button's got you covered. Squeeze the shorties not the guy who covers you. Second, M is still quite high to start worrying about making your move With M this high and 4 peeps already busted you are in a dream sng because they've made your money for you. 99 is way too marginal to blow off your portion of the prize pool. Most of the time sngs are more about waiting for your opps to make mistakes than it is about you being brilliant. Sure repopping might be brilliant given reads etc, but in the context of where you are in the sng best move is to wait for the next hand and sit this one out.

[FlyingSaucy]

PS I think calling is the worst option you have.

[bjsaust]

Sucks folding such a nice looking hand, but consider ICM, we need to conserve chips.

[baudib]

We shove TT-QQ/AK (flat KK-AA) I assume?

[taipan168]

I think you guys are right - I misread Hero's stack size and thought he had an equal stack to Villain. With a 2000 rather than 3000 stack I agree that we don't have odds to play for set value.

[GatorJH]

In this particular instance TT is even marginal for me, but definitely shoving JJ+ and AK+. I may flat AA or KK here but only sometimes.

[revolvingiris]

Easy fold as your risking over 10% of your chips to a virtually unknown (per his bet size)...UNLESS he doesn't like getting action on his AK, AQ, AJ. Which than this would be a shove every time.

If BTN is a smart player as you suspect. He could be isolating the loose MP limp with a decently wide range.

[Bradley]

Snapfold imo. Too early stage to risk ~ 12% of your stack on such a hand OOP vs a pretty tight player. You don't have set odds to call at all and even if your effective stack was bigger, I'd fold considering you're in the early stages still + OOP.

- If you just call you have no set odds, you could find yourself in some nasty spots when you miss the flop.
- 3betting he might just flatcall and you have no idea where you are at when the flop comes as you're OOP, if he 4bets/shove you're gonna have to lay it down
- Last option could be shoving but IMO it's still way to early to jeopardize your whole stack on a mediocre hand.

Just my 2 cents.. I'm a fairly new poster here and also fairly new at poker, so if anyone notices some flaws in my theory please adress them.