edit: Marginal Spots while cards dead in MTTs.

[revolvingiris]

I seem to be at a consistant argument with myself over these types of spots, not specifically the posted hands. They seem to be hands that would normally play well against a typical villains calling range.

If your shortstacked and card dead. Are these 60/40 typically dominated hands +EV in the long run? Or is it best to grind it out and wait for something a little better?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10+$1 Tournament, 500/1000 Blinds 100 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP3 (t6870)
Hero (CO) (t9719)
Button (t5190)
SB (t22300)
BB (t9557)
UTG (t13350)
UTG+1 (t60709)
MP1 (t10315)
MP2 (t11463)

Hero's M: 4.05

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, 10
5 folds, Hero bets t9619 (All-In), 1 fold, SB calls t9119, 1 fold

Flop: (t21138) 2, 2, 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t21138) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t21138) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t21138


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.30 Tournament, 3000/6000 Blinds 750 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG (t32058)
UTG+1 (t88728)
Hero (MP1) (t51961)
MP2 (t71114)
MP3 (t376616)
CO (t90941)
Button (t59374)
SB (t170554)
BB (t51012)

Hero's M: 3.30

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9, J
2 folds, Hero bets t51211 (All-In), MP2 raises to t70364 (All-In), 5 folds

Flop: (t118172) 2, 9, 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t118172) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t118172) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t118172

[baudib]

These look totally fine to me.

[dthorne04]

Seems standard/fine.

[fjuanl]

you can shove a lot wider in hand 1. hand 2 is a little closer but still fine

[revolvingiris]

I feel like there should be a "supply and demand" curve where it could show the balance of push vs reward in MTTs.

[drmcboy]

you can either make your own charts or buy kill everyone/NLHET & P / TPFAP or google.

[revolvingiris]

656,343,629 games 2074.015 secs 316,460 games/sec

Hand 0: 19.630% { J9s }
Hand 1: 13.395% { random }
Hand 2: 13.396% { random }
Hand 3: 13.394% { random }
Hand 4: 13.392% { random }
Hand 5: 13.397% { random }
Hand 6: 13.395% { random }

I guess its good by 6% FWIW?

[revolvingiris]

Here is a leak in my game I hope someone can fix

I thought about starting a new thread for this but since its such a noob question/easy to figure out. I just for the life of me cant find anything.

per advice, I went to barns and noble and bought TPFAP. There is an example in here I cant work out. It makes sense, I just dont know how Sklansky got this number:

We have JJ on the BB and $500 behind, with a BB of $100...

SB large stack bets $600 to move us in, giving us 5:7 on our money. We need to be a 41.67% fav to make this call.

How the hell did he come up with that 41% number?!?!

[Micro2Macro]

5/(5+7) ~ .4167

Converted to a percentage (x100) we get: 41.67%

[revolvingiris]

5/(5+7) ~ .4167

Converted to a percentage (x100) we get: 41.67%

haha dude thank you so much. I was about to go out and herd with cattle trying to figure out this stupid problem.