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  1. #1

    Default AT on the bubble facing all in raise

    Ok this was on the bubble in a 1.20 SNG at poker stars and this guy seems quite LAG. Im pretty sure i should have just flat called this because i thought it was a standard stop and go move.

    The only reason i didnt call was because i thought he could have easily called my pF raise with AJ/KJ . Should i have called his flop bet? or shoved preflop?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00+$0.20 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds (4 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB (t3070)
    Hero (UTG) (t2205)
    Button (t4995)
    SB (t3230)

    Hero's M: 9.80

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, 10
    Hero bets t450, 2 folds, BB calls t300

    Flop: (t975) J, 6, 10 (2 players)
    BB bets t1800, Hero folds

    Total pot: t975

    EDIT: ok looking back i really should have called that..
  2. #2
    Shove pre

    Call flop
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  3. #3
    My advice is completely opposite to this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucothefish
    Shove pre
    No, I doubt that would be +EV at most calling ranges. Standard raise is fine - personally I make it 400 rather than 450 to go, but whatever

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucothefish
    Call flop
    No, I fold this considering the ICM effect. I'll work on the ICM later against some likely ranges but I am pretty sure this is a fold.
  4. #4
    Pf raise seems fine to me.

    Fold on the flop i think. You're not in trouble yet, he's overbetting the pot. Are you really risking this much with a pair of tens and a runner-runner flushdraw/ straightdraw? Let it go.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucothefish
    Shove pre

    Call flop
    how is this a stop n go? villain has 20bb's and is crippled if he loses doing this play. even if it is a stop n go, all of the likely candidates either have us beat or have 7+ outs on us unless he's doing this with like KT

    EDIT: i forgot the most compelling piece of evidence that this isn't a stop n go. it's a $1 tourney and our only read on villain is that he's LAggy
  6. #6
    tai, isn't this one of those classic cases where if we cbet we're pretty close to being potstuck?
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by baudib
    tai, isn't this one of those classic cases where if we cbet we're pretty close to being potstuck?
    True, which is why:
    - If opp checked I would consider checking behind since our hand has some equity (5 outs to trips/2p plus a backdoor nut flush draw)
    - I would raise 400 rather than 450 preflop, makes our c-bet smaller if we do want to c-bet.
  8. #8
    Preflop is fine, I would also make it 400 but it is not such a big deal
    Flop: It is very rare IMO for villian at such low buy in to call preflop and bet the flop with nothing, he either has TP, 2nd pair, FD or str8 draw. I think I would fold it


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