$26, crazy preflop situations

[fjuanl]

Both early in 90-man turbos.

Hand 1:

Unfortunately no reads on UTG+1 who decides to 7x...CO was playing 12/7 through 60 hands. Nothing too out of the ordinary from the others. My plan was to 3bet and get it in vs the opener (debatable?). Now all hell breaks loose after I put in 30% of my stack. My pot odds are 4.7/1. (I need roughly 17% equity vs all their hands)


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 24+2 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button (t3785)
SB (t2670)
BB (t2955)
UTG (t1635)
UTG+1 (t5750)
MP1 (t2920)
Hero (MP2) (t4365)
MP3 (t2865)
CO (t2920)

Hero's M: 58.20

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J, J
1 fold, UTG+1 bets t350, 1 fold, Hero raises to t1350, 1 fold, CO raises to t2920 (All-In), Button raises to t3785 (All-In), SB calls t2645 (All-In), 2 folds, Hero ???

Hand 2

UTG+1 has 19/5 stats through 150 hands. I have a note saying he's limped behind with TT on a 15BB stack before. MP1 is playing 72/13 through 50 hands. I played a hand earlier against him where he minbet donked KTo on an AxxJK board every street

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 24+2 Tournament, 40/80 Blinds (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 (t6945)
MP2 (t1530)
MP3 (t1730)
CO (t4135)
Button (t5860)
SB (t3725)
BB (t1490)
Hero (UTG) (t6670)
UTG+1 (t2485)

Hero's M: 55.58

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q
Hero bets t240, UTG+1 raises to t560, MP1 raises to t6945 (All-In), 6 folds, Hero ???

[mcatdog]

1. The initial 3-bet is really terrible, especially the sizing of it. I'm fine with getting it in against Mr. 7x but it seems like you didn't even consider the possibility that one of the five people who haven't even acted yet would wake up with a monster. I'd flat or make it like 700 preflop, as played pretty easy fold IMO.

2. I'd probably just fold to the UTG+1 3-bet when it comes from someone as bad as this guy, easy fold now.

[baudib]

Both of these look like folds although No. 2 is close.

In hand 1, definitely 3-bet smaller in position vs. an idiot. Edit: I'm pretty sure I'd just call preflop, actually, he's probably coming over the top with everything, let alone any possible action behind us.

Hand 2...I'd fist-pump with KK. I don't know, pot is awfully juicy and I don't think it's terrible to get it in with QQ against two bad players, but I don't think someone who limps TT shortstacked and raises only 5% is getting frisky here with AK/JJ-.

[revolvingiris]

H1: I flat call original raise and then fold to the 3bet and the 4bet AI.

H2: Id snap this as the min-raise is retarded and I don't really care what the AI has given his stats. The only way I would ever fold this is if he only pushes KK+. I could easily see the 73/13 have AQo here.