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  1. #1

    Default $10 QQ line check

    No reads on villain. I felt like I played the hand ok, but a few friends disagreed, please settle the debate.

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 30/60 Blinds (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP2 (t3110)
    MP3 (t5330)
    CO (t4340)
    Button (t1445)
    SB (t2135)
    BB (t1920)
    UTG (t2850)
    UTG+1 (t4270)
    Hero (MP1) (t2010)

    Hero's M: 22.33

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q, Q
    2 folds, Hero bets t180, MP2 calls t180, 5 folds

    Flop: (t450) A, 8, A (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP2 checks

    Turn: (t450) 5 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP2 bets t180, Hero calls t180

    River: (t810) Q (2 players)
    Hero checks

    Here is my logic which I want to be corrected if I have fundamentally flawed thinking.

    FLOP: I check b/c there is no need to fold out worse hands by betting or protect my hand since if I am ahead they have little chance to catch up. If I cbet and they do call I still do not know if they have the ace or are just floating me w/worse pp or air. That means I end up check/folding too many turns.

    TURN: I check because I think villain will bet enough of his range that I can call profitably since many rivers will go check/check I win when he does not have an ace.

    RIVER: When I hit gin on the river I did not want to bet because he would likely fold all his medium/weak hands and might just call with mediocre aces. If I check he has to bet his Ax hands for value and I get to raise, and he might try and bluff at it one more time with air or mistakenly think he is value betting if he has the case queen. I can see betting small on the river to induce a raise from Ax/bluffs but was unsure about betsizing for this which is another reason I ended up checking. I also randomly thought about shoving because he pretty much cannot fold Ax against my line but I thought I lose value against too much of his range for that to be the most profitable play. Besides if he has Ax we likely get it in anyway so better give him a chance to bluff.
  2. #2
    I disagree on checking river, not sure about the rest of the hand.
  3. #3
    looks fine to me
  4. #4
    looks good, betting the river would be terrible
  5. #5
    I think betting the river is villain dependent. Is he the type to bet with air or just be willing to call a value bet from you?
  6. #6
    Wow! I just can't see why you check the river. Why aren't we extracting value from trip As? Do you think we are beat here?
  7. #7
    No one is checking behind Ax on the river, so you can c/r and get your whole stack in versus only getting ~500 if you lead. I doubt your getting much value from 99-JJ anyway, so just check and let him bet trips and his bluffs
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by fjuanl
    No one is checking behind Ax on the river, so you can c/r and get your whole stack in versus only getting ~500 if you lead. I doubt your getting much value from 99-JJ anyway, so just check and let him bet trips and his bluffs
    Thanks!

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