Short stack getting a million to one

[revolvingiris]

Lol wtf do I do here?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $5.00+$0.50 Tournament, 300/600 Blinds 50 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB (t21060)
Hero (BB) (t5195)
UTG (t28377)
UTG+1 (t20900)
MP1 (t76693)
MP2 (t16330)
MP3 (t25818)
CO (t14955)
Button (t23810)

Hero's M: 3.85

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, 8
UTG bets t1200, 3 folds, MP3 calls t1200, CO calls t1200, Button calls t1200, SB calls t900, Hero ???

[dthorne04]

Meh, I still fold.

[sinister1]

I would call if it was sooooted, but fold this and vomit when the flop is 579.

[fjuanl]

Don't really have a good argument but I'd never press the call button with any hand

[revolvingiris]

Could a ship be worth it?

[dthorne04]

Christ, no.

[revolvingiris]

lol well folding is terrible, calling is terrible, and shipping is terrible...I think is push is actually +EV :-S as it only need to work 1/3rd of the time to be profitable?

Im just talking for theory sake now.

[dthorne04]

Errr, i think fold is fine

[fjuanl]

You might be able to shove somewhat wide just because the pot is so big, but I seriously doubt a shove with low connecting cards is good. Theres like a 0.1% chance you get them all the fold

[revolvingiris]

Hand 0: 79.241% { TT-66 }
Hand 1: 20.759% { 86o }

lol If I push and only the hands above call. Its only a -EV push by 1%.

Can someone else run the math for me? I just wanted to see if maybe I did mine wrong.

[fjuanl]

You have to include both their opening ranges AND the range that they call a shove. Since you have to estimate 5 peoples ranges, its fairly tough estimate correctly. You also have to guess overcall ranges (ie: if UTG calls your shove, how will everyone respond?) I don't do the math by hand, I just let Sngwiz do it for me.

In the end its saying shoving is -820 cEV (based on the ranges I guessed). If you take an edge of 150 chips, it recommends 44+ ATo+ KTs+ QTs+ JTs+ T9s

[revolvingiris]

I just threw in a random range that seemed likely out of all the hands that would limp then call. Obv there are tons more, I just did it quick.

Like a donk I called the minraise and folded my gut shot on flop...then punched myself when I turned it lol.

thanks fjuanl for running that for me.