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    Default stop then go'd

    $26 90 man KO


    Villain sux and is 40/30, but only over 20 hands.


    No-Limit Hold'em, $160.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG ($2532)
    UTG+1 ($1410)
    Hero (MP1) ($6361)
    MP2 ($5498)
    CO ($5700)
    Button ($10965)
    SB ($1714)
    BB ($6207)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, Q
    2 folds, Hero bets $444, 3 folds, SB calls $364, 1 fold

    Flop: ($1048) 4, 7, 8 (2 players)
    SB bets $1270 (All-In), Hero ???
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    it kinda sucks but I would fold
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    Pot odds say fold by 2%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revolvingiris
    Pot odds say fold by 2%.
    I'm assuming you just plugged the top 40% of hands into pokerstove for his range?
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    nm, lmk what you did to come up with 2%
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    Quote Originally Posted by drmcboy
    it kinda sucks but I would fold
    Yep, I'm not giving this any respect but I expect him to show up with like A4 or A5 a lot. I would call with any pair, any good ace, obviously JT and T9 if you raised them, but go ahead and dump KQ, KJ, QJ etc.
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    yaaaaaa like mcat was saying dont expect him to just jam like KT or JQ
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    Quote Originally Posted by lolzzz_321
    nm, lmk what you did to come up with 2%
    Hero has a 24% chance of hitting a K or Q if he is behind on flop (assuming both are good). Hero's pot odds are 1:3.82 or 26%. So a call here is -EV by 2% if hero is never ahead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revolvingiris
    Quote Originally Posted by lolzzz_321
    nm, lmk what you did to come up with 2%
    Hero has a 24% chance of hitting a K or Q if he is behind on flop (assuming both are good). Hero's pot odds are 1:3.82 or 26%. So a call here is -EV by 2% if hero is never ahead.
    You went wrong somewhere.
    Hero's chance of hitting a K or Q is 24% which is about 1:3.
    Hero's pot odds are (1048 + 1270):1270 which equals 1:1.82. Not close at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revolvingiris
    Quote Originally Posted by lolzzz_321
    nm, lmk what you did to come up with 2%
    Hero has a 24% chance of hitting a K or Q if he is behind on flop (assuming both are good). Hero's pot odds are 1:3.82 or 26%. So a call here is -EV by 2% if hero is never ahead.


    Read Fielmann's post.

    Also, 3.82:1 is not equal to 26%. Similarly, 2:1 is not equal to 50%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fielmann
    Quote Originally Posted by revolvingiris
    Quote Originally Posted by lolzzz_321
    nm, lmk what you did to come up with 2%
    Hero has a 24% chance of hitting a K or Q if he is behind on flop (assuming both are good). Hero's pot odds are 1:3.82 or 26%. So a call here is -EV by 2% if hero is never ahead.
    You went wrong somewhere.
    Hero's chance of hitting a K or Q is 24% which is about 1:3.
    Hero's pot odds are (1048 + 1270):1270 which equals 1:1.82. Not close at all.
    No I didnt...

    edit: I ment 1:2.82
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    Quote Originally Posted by revolvingiris
    Quote Originally Posted by Fielmann
    Quote Originally Posted by revolvingiris
    Quote Originally Posted by lolzzz_321
    nm, lmk what you did to come up with 2%
    Hero has a 24% chance of hitting a K or Q if he is behind on flop (assuming both are good). Hero's pot odds are 1:3.82 or 26%. So a call here is -EV by 2% if hero is never ahead.
    You went wrong somewhere.
    Hero's chance of hitting a K or Q is 24% which is about 1:3.
    Hero's pot odds are (1048 + 1270):1270 which equals 1:1.82. Not close at all.
    No I didnt...

    edit: I ment 1:2.82
    This is still expressed incorrectly:

    bad outcomes : good outcomes

    1.82:1
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    yeah...no one listen to me. Im an id-EOOTtt

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