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    Default Bubbled Out - Critiques please... $16 9-man

    Not just the bubble hand, but the play overall. Please ID spots where I should have acted differently. I'm on a bit of a slide lately, with some bad suckouts leading to bad play, and I need to get my head right again. Posting here seems to be the most +EV thing I can do, since you all kick ass.

    The last 8 hands are critical. Are there hands I should have called in the last 7? I'm sure I would shove the last hand 100% and get called 100%, but is that correct?

    ---Tournament Summary---
    $16 SNG: Finished 4/9, payout unknown
    Data for 56 hands.
    You played 12 hands (21.43%)
    You raised 10 times preflop (17.86%)

    The Tournament Trimmer (v2.0) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com

    Q 3 Button (Hero's M = 50.00; f+f+f+f+r+c+F+f+f+b+r+c+s+s+s+b+r+c)
    6 9 CO (Hero's M = 50.00; f+f+f+f+c+F+f+f+r+r+c+b+c+s+s+s+s)

    -----Hand 1-----
    Hero's M = 50.00
    PokerStars Game #31034270947: Tournament #183245889, $15+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/07/29 21:53:56 ET
    Table '183245889 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: Hero (1500)
    Seat 2: maddog3819 (1490)
    Seat 3: EVitoy (1470)
    Seat 4: Gerd Jemasze (1220)
    Seat 5: Kid Nebraska (1500)
    Seat 6: Abrafi (1500)
    Seat 7: wavegoodbye (1500)
    Seat 8: le fnjup (940)
    Seat 9: JasonHerman1 (2380)
    Gerd Jemasze: posts small blind 10
    Kid Nebraska: posts big blind 20
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero 5 6
    Abrafi: folds
    wavegoodbye: folds
    le fnjup: folds
    JasonHerman1: calls 20
    Hero: calls 20
    maddog3819: folds
    EVitoy: raises 100 to 120
    Gerd Jemasze: folds
    Kid Nebraska: folds
    JasonHerman1: raises 160 to 280
    Hero: folds
    EVitoy: calls 160
    Flop: K 4 6
    JasonHerman1: checks
    EVitoy: checks
    Turn: 3
    JasonHerman1: checks
    EVitoy: checks
    River: 8
    JasonHerman1: bets 60
    EVitoy: calls 60
    Showdown
    JasonHerman1: shows K A (a pair of Kings)
    JasonHerman1 collected 730
    EVitoy (button): mucked J J

    4 2 MP2 (Hero's M = 49.33; f+c+c+F+c+f+r+f+f+c+c+c+s+s+b+f+f+f)
    5 A UTG+2 (Hero's M = 49.33; f+r+F+r+f+f+f+f+f+c+b+r+c+b+c+s+s)
    A 2 UTG+1 (Hero's M = 32.89; r+F+f+f+f+f+f+f+r+c+b+c+b+c)

    -----Hand 2-----
    Hero's M = 32.89
    PokerStars Game #31034404899: Tournament #183245889, $15+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/07/29 21:58:18 ET
    Table '183245889 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: Hero (1480)
    Seat 2: maddog3819 (2075)
    Seat 3: EVitoy (1130)
    Seat 4: Gerd Jemasze (1130)
    Seat 5: Kid Nebraska (1470)
    Seat 6: Abrafi (1470)
    Seat 7: wavegoodbye (1465)
    Seat 8: le fnjup (1735)
    Seat 9: JasonHerman1 (1545)
    le fnjup: posts small blind 15
    JasonHerman1: posts big blind 30
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero A K
    Hero: raises 60 to 90
    maddog3819: folds
    EVitoy: folds
    Gerd Jemasze: folds
    Kid Nebraska: folds
    Abrafi: folds
    wavegoodbye: folds
    le fnjup: folds
    JasonHerman1: calls 60
    Flop: T 2 9
    JasonHerman1: bets 30
    Hero: calls 30
    Turn: 6
    JasonHerman1: bets 30
    Hero: calls 30
    River: 3
    JasonHerman1: checks
    Hero: checks
    Showdown
    JasonHerman1: shows 7 K (high card King)
    Hero: shows A K (high card Ace)
    Hero collected 315

    8 K BB (Hero's M = 36.56; r+f+f+c+f+f+f+c+F+s+b+f+c+b+r+c+b+c)
    A 5 SB (Hero's M = 35.89; f+c+f+r+f+f+c+F+f+f+b+c)
    3 J Button (Hero's M = 21.33; f+f+f+f+r+r+F+f+f+c)

    -----Hand 3-----
    Hero's M = 21.33
    PokerStars Game #31034531513: Tournament #183245889, $15+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2009/07/29 22:02:45 ET
    Table '183245889 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: Hero (1600)
    Seat 2: maddog3819 (1110)
    Seat 3: EVitoy (1080)
    Seat 4: Gerd Jemasze (1100)
    Seat 5: Kid Nebraska (1370)
    Seat 6: Abrafi (3015)
    Seat 7: wavegoodbye (1465)
    Seat 8: le fnjup (2760)
    EVitoy: posts small blind 25
    Gerd Jemasze: posts big blind 50
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero T J
    Kid Nebraska: folds
    Abrafi: folds
    wavegoodbye: folds
    le fnjup: folds
    Hero: raises 100 to 150
    maddog3819: folds
    EVitoy: folds
    Gerd Jemasze: folds
    Uncalled bet (100) returned to Hero
    Hero collected 125

    5 A MP (Hero's M = 22.33; f+f+r+F+f+f+f+f)
    8 3 MP2 (Hero's M = 22.33; f+f+F+f+f+f+r+f)
    2 9 UTG+1 (Hero's M = 22.33; f+F+f+r+f+f+r+f+f)
    5 A UTG (Hero's M = 22.33; F+[/color]c+f+f+f+f+c+s+s+s+b+f+r+c+b+c)

    -----Hand 4-----
    Hero's M = 22.33
    PokerStars Game #31034640515: Tournament #183245889, $15+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2009/07/29 22:06:23 ET
    Table '183245889 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: Hero (1675)
    Seat 2: maddog3819 (2270)
    Seat 3: EVitoy (905)
    Seat 4: Gerd Jemasze (1025)
    Seat 5: Kid Nebraska (1370)
    Seat 6: Abrafi (3165)
    Seat 7: wavegoodbye (1365)
    Seat 8: le fnjup (1725)
    le fnjup: posts small blind 25
    Hero: posts big blind 50
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero A T
    maddog3819: calls 50
    EVitoy: folds
    Gerd Jemasze: raises 150 to 200
    Kid Nebraska: folds
    Abrafi: folds
    wavegoodbye: folds
    le fnjup: folds
    Hero: calls 150
    maddog3819: calls 150
    Flop: 5 5 2
    Hero: checks
    maddog3819: bets 125
    Gerd Jemasze: raises 700 to 825 and is all-in
    Hero: folds
    maddog3819: folds
    Uncalled bet (700) returned to Gerd Jemasze
    Gerd Jemasze collected 875

    Q 4 SB (Hero's M = 9.83; f+r+f+f+f+f+F+f)
    5 J Button (Hero's M = 9.50; f+f+f+f+f+F+f)

    -----Hand 5-----
    Hero's M = 9.50
    PokerStars Game #31034709534: Tournament #183245889, $15+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/07/29 22:08:40 ET
    Table '183245889 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: Hero (1425)
    Seat 2: maddog3819 (1795)
    Seat 3: EVitoy (955)
    Seat 4: Gerd Jemasze (1725)
    Seat 5: Kid Nebraska (1370)
    Seat 6: Abrafi (3165)
    Seat 7: wavegoodbye (1365)
    Seat 8: le fnjup (1700)
    EVitoy: posts small blind 50
    Gerd Jemasze: posts big blind 100
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero Q 7
    Kid Nebraska: folds
    Abrafi: folds
    wavegoodbye: folds
    le fnjup: folds
    Hero: raises 200 to 300
    maddog3819: folds
    EVitoy: folds
    Gerd Jemasze: folds
    Uncalled bet (200) returned to Hero
    Hero collected 250

    Q 3 MP (Hero's M = 10.50; f+f+f+F+f+r+r+f)
    9 K MP2 (Hero's M = 10.50; f+f+F+f+f+f+f)
    4 T UTG+1 (Hero's M = 10.50; f+F+r+f+f+f+f+f)
    K 8 UTG (Hero's M = 10.50; F+f+[/color]r+f+f+f+f+f)
    3 6 BB (Hero's M = 10.50; f+f+r+f+f+f+r+F)
    4 Q SB (Hero's M = 6.56; f+f+r+f+c+f+F+f)

    -----Hand 6-----
    Hero's M = 6.22
    PokerStars Game #31034837764: Tournament #183245889, $15+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/29 22:12:55 ET
    Table '183245889 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: Hero (1400)
    Seat 2: maddog3819 (1795)
    Seat 3: EVitoy (2060)
    Seat 4: Gerd Jemasze (1540)
    Seat 5: Kid Nebraska (5)
    Seat 6: Abrafi (3165)
    Seat 7: wavegoodbye (2655)
    Seat 8: le fnjup (880)
    maddog3819: posts small blind 75
    EVitoy: posts big blind 150
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero J A
    Gerd Jemasze: folds
    Kid Nebraska: calls 5 and is all-in
    Abrafi: folds
    wavegoodbye: folds
    le fnjup: raises 730 to 880 and is all-in
    Hero: raises 520 to 1400 and is all-in
    maddog3819: folds
    EVitoy: folds
    Uncalled bet (520) returned to Hero
    Flop: T T K
    Turn: 4
    River: 9
    Showdown
    le fnjup: shows A J (a pair of Tens)
    Hero: shows J A (a pair of Tens)
    le fnjup collected 983
    Hero collected 982
    Kid Nebraska: shows A 2 (a pair of Tens - lower kicker)
    le fnjup collected 13
    Hero collected 12

    -----Hand 7-----
    Hero's M = 6.73
    PokerStars Game #31034863716: Tournament #183245889, $15+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/29 22:13:47 ET
    Table '183245889 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: Hero (1514)
    Seat 2: maddog3819 (1720)
    Seat 3: EVitoy (1910)
    Seat 4: Gerd Jemasze (1540)
    Seat 6: Abrafi (3165)
    Seat 7: wavegoodbye (2655)
    Seat 8: le fnjup (996)
    EVitoy: posts small blind 75
    Gerd Jemasze: posts big blind 150
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero K J
    Abrafi: folds
    wavegoodbye: folds
    le fnjup: folds
    Hero: raises 1364 to 1514 and is all-in
    maddog3819: folds
    EVitoy: folds
    Gerd Jemasze: folds
    Uncalled bet (1364) returned to Hero
    Hero collected 375

    6 4 MP (Hero's M = 7.73; f+f+F+f+f+f)
    5 9 UTG+1 (Hero's M = 7.73; f+F+c+f+f+c+s+s+s+b+f+f)
    7 K UTG (Hero's M = 7.73; F+f+f+f+[/color]r+f+f)
    3 3 BB (Hero's M = 7.73; f+c+f+f+c+f+S+S+b+c+F+b+c+b+f)

    -----Hand 8-----
    Hero's M = 5.30
    PokerStars Game #31034957121: Tournament #183245889, $15+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/07/29 22:16:59 ET
    Table '183245889 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: Hero (1589)
    Seat 2: maddog3819 (2020)
    Seat 3: EVitoy (2810)
    Seat 4: Gerd Jemasze (1315)
    Seat 6: Abrafi (3315)
    Seat 7: wavegoodbye (1680)
    Seat 8: le fnjup (771)
    Hero: posts small blind 100
    maddog3819: posts big blind 200
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero T Q
    EVitoy: folds
    Gerd Jemasze: folds
    Abrafi: folds
    wavegoodbye: folds
    le fnjup: folds
    Hero: raises 1389 to 1589 and is all-in
    maddog3819: folds
    Uncalled bet (1389) returned to Hero
    Hero collected 400

    2 5 Button (Hero's M = 5.96; f+f+f+f+F+c+s+b+f)
    5 Q CO (Hero's M = 5.96; f+f+f+F+f+f)

    -----Hand 9-----
    Hero's M = 5.96
    PokerStars Game #31035003499: Tournament #183245889, $15+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/07/29 22:18:36 ET
    Table '183245889 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: Hero (1789)
    Seat 2: maddog3819 (2020)
    Seat 3: EVitoy (2510)
    Seat 4: Gerd Jemasze (1415)
    Seat 6: Abrafi (3315)
    Seat 7: wavegoodbye (1680)
    Seat 8: le fnjup (771)
    Gerd Jemasze: posts small blind 100
    Abrafi: posts big blind 200
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero A Q
    wavegoodbye: folds
    le fnjup: folds
    Hero: raises 1589 to 1789 and is all-in
    maddog3819: folds
    EVitoy: folds
    Gerd Jemasze: folds
    Abrafi: folds
    Uncalled bet (1589) returned to Hero
    Hero collected 500

    3 T UTG+1 (Hero's M = 6.96; r+F+f+f+f+c+f)
    9 J BB (Hero's M = 6.96; f+f+r+f+r+F)
    9 2 SB (Hero's M = 6.30; f+c+f+c+F+s+b+c+b+c+s+s)
    J 9 Button (Hero's M = 5.96; f+f+F+f)
    3 T CO (Hero's M = 5.96; f+F+r+f+f)
    8 9 UTG (Hero's M = 5.96; F+f+f+[/color]r+r+c)
    3 J BB (Hero's M = 5.88; f+f+r+c+F)

    -----Hand 10-----
    Hero's M = 5.13
    PokerStars Game #31035128565: Tournament #183245889, $15+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2009/07/29 22:22:58 ET
    Table '183245889 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: Hero (1539)
    Seat 2: maddog3819 (1420)
    Seat 3: EVitoy (2460)
    Seat 4: Gerd Jemasze (6924)
    Seat 6: Abrafi (1157)
    Hero: posts small blind 100
    maddog3819: posts big blind 200
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero 8 8
    EVitoy: folds
    Gerd Jemasze: folds
    Abrafi: folds
    Hero: raises 1314 to 1514 and is all-in
    maddog3819: folds
    Uncalled bet (1314) returned to Hero
    Hero collected 525

    T 5 Button (Hero's M = 6.13; f+r+F+f+f)
    5 3 CO (Hero's M = 6.05; f+F+r+f+f)
    J 4 UTG (Hero's M = 5.96; F+f+f+[/color]c+s+b+c+b+r+f)
    2 T BB (Hero's M = 5.88; r+f+f+f+F)

    -----Hand 11-----
    Hero's M = 5.13
    PokerStars Game #31035186219: Tournament #183245889, $15+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2009/07/29 22:25:00 ET
    Table '183245889 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: Hero (1539)
    Seat 2: maddog3819 (1845)
    Seat 3: EVitoy (2035)
    Seat 4: Gerd Jemasze (5999)
    Seat 6: Abrafi (2082)
    Hero: posts small blind 100
    maddog3819: posts big blind 200
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero Q K
    EVitoy: folds
    Gerd Jemasze: folds
    Abrafi: folds
    Hero: raises 1314 to 1514 and is all-in
    maddog3819: folds
    Uncalled bet (1314) returned to Hero
    Hero collected 525

    6 K Button (Hero's M = 6.13; f+r+F+f+f)
    4 5 CO (Hero's M = 6.05; f+F+f+r+c)
    8 9 BB (Hero's M = 2.98; f+r+f+F)
    Q 9 SB (Hero's M = 2.27; f+r+F+f)
    5 T Button (Hero's M = 1.90; f+F+f)
    9 6 CO (Hero's M = 1.86; F+f+f[/color])
    3 J BB (Hero's M = 1.81; f+f+r+F)

    -----Hand 12-----
    Hero's M = 1.11
    PokerStars Game #31035281023: Tournament #183245889, $15+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2009/07/29 22:28:19 ET
    Table '183245889 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: Hero (664)
    Seat 2: maddog3819 (745)
    Seat 4: Gerd Jemasze (8484)
    Seat 6: Abrafi (3607)
    Hero: posts small blind 200
    maddog3819: posts big blind 400
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero A 2
    Gerd Jemasze: folds
    Abrafi: folds
    Hero: raises 239 to 639 and is all-in
    maddog3819: calls 239
    Flop: 2 3 8
    Turn: Q
    River: 9
    Showdown
    Hero: shows A 2 (a pair of Deuces)
    maddog3819: shows J 3 (a pair of Threes)
    maddog3819 collected 1378
  2. #2
    Hand 4: I would never call a raise from SB with ATo even when blinds are low.
    Hand 5: loose play
    Hand 6: with AJo is not optimal to call a raise, right ? Maybe shortstacked villain is desparate, but we don't want to gamble here.
    Hand 8: the same as Hand 5, KJo all-in from CO is loose for me, you are not shortstack yet and have still 3 players behind you.

    Rest of hands are OK.

    I am looking forward to your answers
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    hmmmmm, I don't like the last 8 hands. You pretty much got blinded out. Would like to see the chip distributions for those hands, hard to judge without knowing that.
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  4. #4
    Looking back on the ATo hand, yeah, that was horrible spew. I remember thinking UTG limp this early is SC or small PP, and the button raise could be light, and talked myself into a call. Bad idea.

    Q7s is probably too loose. I raised 3x to fold to a shove, which is spewy, but I hadn't seen any overshoves yet, and the blinds had just gone up a couple hands back, which is always a good time to look to steal. I had just open folded my button, so I felt I had decent table image to steal.

    On the AJo hand, I thought that the villain could be raising very light, since the 5-chip player was in. If everyone folds and he loses the hand to the 5-chip player, he gains chips. When I see that situation, if it's folded to me, I raise pretty wide, and I gave him credit to be thinking in those terms. I think him showing up with better than AJ there is rare, so I overshoved because a) I had him covered, and b) I wanted to protect.

    On the KJ, I think if it got run through an ICM calculator, it's +EV if you think calling ranges are +15% or better. I'm not sure, though, so I was hoping someone could do that. KJ from the cutoff here with an M of 5 feels right to me, but I would like some evidence of that.

    @Dan - You'll see me and maddog had short stacks and the other two had pretty big stacks. I hate getting blinded out, but didn't see an opportunity do avoid it, especially with him having a smaller stack than me, albeit just barely. Bad luck. I think I should have called in the SB with the Q9, but then if I lose that, I feel really stupid. Looking at it as it happened, though, blinding off is a worse crime.

    Thanks for the feedback! You've highlighted some hands I wasn't even really looking at, so, thanks.
  5. #5
    I think the KJo hand may be a bit loose, their calling ranges need to be awfully tight (8%+). You just showed up with a decent hand as well as your stack is equal to theirs, so maybe they're calling tight enough...

    I guessed at your stack sizes and my thinking is that Q9s is a fold.

    Last hand, pretty sure you need to shove anything at that point, as folding is just terrible. A2o is a very good hand to go out on.

    Also, keep in mind I'm pretty new to SNGwiz
  6. #6
    Hand 1 - 56s - I don't like the limp in a middle position. Reserve these hands for the button or CO in limped pots.

    Hand 2 - AKo - I raise to 120 PF. I raise the donk lead. Often this a bet made by drawing hands. If called you may need to slow down unless a good scare card flops out.

    Hand 3 - TJo I think this is a little loose, but I guess it's ok.

    Hand 4 - ATo Definitely release the hand PF

    HAnd 5 - Q7s seems a bit loose, unless you have a good read.

    Hand 6 - AJo I tend to fold here, but maybe that's weak-ass play.

    Hand 8 - QTo I think the previous KJo hand is ok, but this is a clear fold.

    The rest seems ok, although there may have been spots to gamble in the last couple of hands. I think we may need to see the stack sizes to really make a decision.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Nakamura
    Hand 8 - QTo I think the previous KJo hand is ok, but this is a clear fold.
    QTo is a clear push....Dont forget blinds are already 100/200, you are shortstack, everybody folded to you and QTo is in top of 20% best hands. Even Q9 is correct to push according to Wizard.
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  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Lance
    Quote Originally Posted by Nakamura
    Hand 8 - QTo I think the previous KJo hand is ok, but this is a clear fold.
    QTo is a clear push....Dont forget blinds are already 100/200, you are shortstack, everybody folded to you and QTo is in top of 20% best hands. Even Q9 is correct to push according to Wizard.
    IDD, for some reason I thought Hero was in the CO, in which case I think it would be a fold
  9. #9
    hand 1- The limp is a bit spewey, You don't have the stack to be limping a hand in mp like this. I don't limp any
    suited connector here, not even kqs.

    hand 2- std

    hand 3- You should not be getting involved with these weak hands in such an early stage. The main focus of sngs are
    to play tight so you have a good image at the end. You only want to be picking really good spots at the start of the sng.
    My pf raising range from the CO at this level is going to be kqs+ Ajs+ 55+

    hand 4- AT vrs an iso range to a limper is never good. I beat a micro portion of his range at best. If i flop an ace I never feel good here.
    You are better off just folding pre to avoid the marginal spots. The end game in sngs is key, just toss this into the muck. I don't have HUD stats
    on this guy but AQ is a pretty std fold here in a 16/9

    hand 5- Your stack is OK at this point so you shouldnt be risking a spot in the CO like this. You ruining your image at this point
    so be ready to get 3b shoved pretty light. If everyone has been absolute nits I might raise up KJs at this point. Even a hand like q7s doesn't play that well though.
    A lot of the time passive fish are just going to flat call so at least make it easy on your self and raise a suited connector for playability reasons. This helps a lot when
    multi tabling. As I have mentioned before your stack is very important, when you are on a steal like this, just make it 2.5xbb at the bb=100 level. I promist it accomplishes the same
    thing and you'll save some chips in the long run.

    hand 6- yeah this is fine

    hand 7- this is probably a closer shove then you think. TBH up until this point you have been spewy with your pf raising etc so I would only be on 10% here
    because bb might be calling 55+ a7s+ kjs+ as well as the sb. Btn should still be calling you ~9% so thats fine. You need to
    tighten up your first 4 blind levels then you can comfortably shove this.

    hand 8

    through

    hand 12 are very standard

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