Fnord, even Hitler is pissed...

[bigred]

http://www.gossipgamers.com/blizzard...ft-2-lan-play/

[a500lbgorilla]

Hitler fighting for the little people... swell guy

[boost]

holy shit. Ive seen so many of those, I didnt think another could make me laugh. This made me laugh.

[Ragnar4]

Eff me WTF is the no lan BS with SC2 anyway?

[bigred]

holy shit. Ive seen so many of those, I didnt think another could make me laugh. This made me laugh.

I laughed a lot on the latency comment

[boost]

holy shit. Ive seen so many of those, I didnt think another could make me laugh. This made me laugh.

I laughed a lot on the latency comment

haha, ya "I refuse to use a dial-up modem because of outdated multiplayer protocol!"

"this was a day one purchase for me.."

"blizzard can suck my dick"

seriously too much gold..

[Fnord]

This was a hot item at the office... like 2 years ago....

If it really was a make or break thing, they probably could jam it in pretty quick. That said, I doubt they ship with it in.

[a500lbgorilla]

I don't follow your incredible insight and brilliance, fnord. Saying it was a big issue 2 years ago inside blizzard means nothing to anyone outisde of blizzard. That's like my grandfather rickrolling me as I tell him "welcome to 2006."

It'd be cooler if you told us why the blizzard decided to not include something so explicitely expected as LAN play. Becuase speculation leads us to assume that all living entites of blizzard are nothing but warped minds and lost souls, the playthings of corporate greed.

[Fnord]

Control basically.

If you go through a central service it's easier to provide and evolve the best possible experience (for example, there are big plans around how to manage maps), police games and collect a fair price from every player.

[a500lbgorilla]

Thinking about it from their POV I cant wrap my mind around it. I just think Id rather please my gamers through and through and move on to the next thing. When you're blizzard and you make a perfect game, the rest works itself out, right?

Even on the approach its such an unsavory thought making a less pleasing game in favor of "control" and what i can only imagine is their attempt to try and make SC2 a WoW calibur income stream.

I guess when I imagine being Blizzard, I think of myself as a really rich gamer doing what I loved when they probably operate as a money making machine looking to make some money while having fun making money.

[Fnord]

Thinking about it from their POV I cant wrap my mind around it. I just think Id rather please my gamers through and through and move on to the next thing.

So many features so little time and the game is already how many YEARS late??? Blizzard doesn't believe in just throwing in crappy features to fill a check box. Hence the focus on a single, highest quality online experience. They are putting a HUGE amount of engineering effort behind the new Battle.net.

Even on the approach its such an unsavory thought making a less pleasing game in favor of "control" and what i can only imagine is their attempt to try and make SC2 a WoW calibur income stream.

No way SC2 can ever be the sort of revenue stream that WoW is. Heck, D3 probably isn't either. It's really such a niche market if it wasn't for the hordes of people who will buy it for a couple play throughs for the sake of the brand. Also, Blizzard is really sensitive about not milking their customers to maximize short-term revenue. That said, Blizzard is a buisness and if you like and play their product they expect you to pay a fair price. I always felt bad for the SC2 guys because they just can't have the same financial impact on the buisness as other departments. It's better for both customers and the buisness to force you to have an account with an online service rather than some voodoo CD copy protection with driver issues and a zero day crack.

All that said, a running joke at the office was that if you renewed your WoW subscription for a year, we'd just ship you the damn CD and call it good. The sick thing is, that the numbers would probably work out....

[a500lbgorilla]

I guess if i had to choose, perfecting the battle.net experience would be huge and letting LAN-needs piggy back on battle.net services would be acceptable.

Its much cooler when you can talk about the inner workings of blizzard

edit also blizzard expecting people to pay a fair price for services rendered. I bet my opinion of fair price is unrealistic in this day and age

[d0zer]

1) makes no sense, it's bs

2) over/under on how long it takes someone to
a) crack the game and
b) write an emulator for battle.net to allow lan

3) ...

4) profit??@?!?!!?

[Fnord]

1) makes no sense, it's bs

2) over/under on how long it takes someone to
a) crack the game and
b) write an emulator for battle.net to allow lan

3) ...

4) profit??@?!?!!?

LOLOLOLOLOLOL so many things wrong with this.

[Ragnar4]

LOLOLOLOLOLOL so many things wrong with this.

+1 I laughed so hard at that.

[kingnat]

LOLOLOLOLOLOL so many things wrong with this.

+1 I laughed so hard at that.

I LOL'd hard at you both, because my boy d0zer is from CANADIA... and he pwnds dem foooooooooooooooLS...

[d0zer]

1) makes no sense, it's bs

2) over/under on how long it takes someone to
a) crack the game and
b) write an emulator for battle.net to allow lan

3) ...

4) profit??@?!?!!?

LOLOLOLOLOLOL so many things wrong with this.

Why? I was playing war3 on crakt battlenet servers when it was in beta.

[boost]

1) makes no sense, it's bs

2) over/under on how long it takes someone to
a) crack the game and
b) write an emulator for battle.net to allow lan

3) ...

4) profit??@?!?!!?

LOLOLOLOLOLOL so many things wrong with this.

Why? I was playing war3 on crakt battlenet servers when it was in beta.

me too. And I remember them patching it, but it didnt stop you from playing but instead for people playing on cracked copies it introduced an invisible invincible golem right next to your base as soon as the game started. Your townhall would be destroyed in like a minute. Blizzard is awesome like that.


And I agree with fnord.. lan play in this day and age seems so very obsolete. Who doesnt have the interenet? Why would you need lan if essentially everyone has access to bnet?


and I thought I posted this in here yesterday, but I guess not.. I found a copy of the d2 sound track (guess I bought the collectors edition?) the other day. I listened to it last night while working on my motorcycle. It was pretty awesome.

[wufwugy]

Lan isn't necessarily outdated YET, but it will be soon, and it's probably a good idea to be ahead of the curve. There are still some problems for the players due to no lan, but that type of thing is unavoidable. Also, Blizzard is by far the best game developers on the planet. This suggests that they probably know what they're doing

Question for Fnord: will this affect professional gaming in South Korea at all? I'm assuming that there will be enough safeguards and backups on bnet that in case it goes down during a professional match, the game will not be lost and will only have to be paused for a couple minutes. Is this correct?

And I'm a huge fan of esports, I can't wait for SC2 to take off in South Korea.

Leaked battle report. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_0MYFcwpWg

[Ragnar4]

Naah, it won't affect professional gaming in SK.

The trick is that either Blizz will sell the server protocall to the professional gaming industry like others have,

or

Some hacker will create a server that emulates the B.net server, and they'll just use that.

The idea of "patching the game so that b.net allows lan" is just ludicris. I honestly think it's the highest error to word ratio ever.

[boost]

ya I would guess that a pretty decent revenue stream would be created by simply licensing the protocol to e-sport outfits. Its also an a great way to make more money and not tax the player.

[boost]

Leaked battle report. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_0MYFcwpWg

I saved this for later thinking it was a serious battle report, but even though it isnt, it is hilarious so Im not disappointed.

[Fnord]

How many esports places can't manage to put together a WAN connection to Battle.net???

[boost]

How many esports places can't manage to put together a WAN connection to Battle.net???

I mean... thats what weve all been saying.. it aint even a big deal.

HOW THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE GOING TO PLAY IN TOURNAMENTS NOW? TOURNAMENTS ON FUCKING BATTLE.NET? ARE YOU MAD? I AM MORE PISSED THAN HITLER!! DO YOU REALLY EXPECT US TO GO HMM THIS IS A TOURNAMENT, BUT WE CAN'T PLAY ON LAN, LET US FUCKING LAG IN A TOURNAMENT SETTING BECAUSE BLIZZARD SUCKS TOO MUCH DICK TO RELEASE A GAME WITH LAN IN IT.

It's going to have a LAN hack like the first day it's out. Fuck it, I AM MAKING A LAN HACK. I will code one myself if Blizzard doesn't release it. Fuck your control shit, you're never going to have it. It's just not reasonable. This isn't fucking WoW. You can't expect everyone to play on your shitty servers. This game is about single iterations of play, it's not a fucking MMORPG.

[Jack Sawyer]

This game is about single iterations of play, it's not a fucking MMORPG.

This. Plus internet lag.

How many esports places can't manage to put together a WAN connection to Battle.net???

I believe you don't understand what latency is
anything above a few milliseconds affects play especially in sc1 where if you don't turn your mutalisks back instantly after firing one volley vs. marines/medics they get hit that much more by marines that have stimpack and are running at nigger speed to start shooting at them

so if latency is more than the time it takes a stimpacked marine run one square then it affects gameplay

[bode]

How many esports places can't manage to put together a WAN connection to Battle.net???

I believe you don't understand what latency is
anything above a few milliseconds affects play especially in sc1 where if you don't turn your mutalisks back instantly after firing one volley vs. marines/medics they get hit that much more by marines that have stimpack and are running at nigger speed to start shooting at them

so if latency is more than the time it takes a stimpacked marine run one square then it affects gameplay

this could be the nerdiest thing i have ever read, although "nigger speed" did spice it up a little.

[bikes]

so glad i never played this game.

[a500lbgorilla]

How many esports places can't manage to put together a WAN connection to Battle.net???

I dont believe you understand!

<Indecipherable jargon>

Therefore, <indecipherable>

Hope this helped clear some things up!

hahaha

[Fnord]

Just because you set-up a match via an online service, it doesn't mean you need to use a server to route game packets or they won't allow you to use a game server you host yourself.

[boost]

and are running at nigger speed

woah. I dont know if I should laugh hysterically or be offended..

[bode]

and are running at nigger speed

woah. I dont know if I should laugh hysterically or be offended..

take it as a compliment. he only wishes he had you and jack's awesome powers

[bikes]

and are running at nigger speed

woah. I dont know if I should laugh hysterically or be offended..

take it as a compliment. he only wishes he had you and jack's awesome powers

pretty sure we all wish we had boost's and jack's powers.

[a500lbgorilla]

and are running at nigger speed

woah. I dont know if I should laugh hysterically or be offended..

take it as a compliment. he only wishes he had you and jack's awesome powers

my cracker speed would ruin me in the African plains.

and are running at nigger speed

woah. I dont know if I should laugh hysterically or be offended..

take it as a compliment. he only wishes he had you and jack's awesome powers

this, I wish I could run that fast
I do like a 9 minute mile, no lie

[Galapogos]

and are running at nigger speed

woah. I dont know if I should laugh hysterically or be offended..

take it as a compliment. he only wishes he had you and jack's awesome powers

pretty sure we all wish we had boost's and jack's powers.

I just wish I had their giant wangs.

[bode]

and are running at nigger speed

woah. I dont know if I should laugh hysterically or be offended..

take it as a compliment. he only wishes he had you and jack's awesome powers

pretty sure we all wish we had boost's and jack's powers.

I just wish I had their giant wangs.

in your mouth!!

amirite?

[Galapogos]

and are running at nigger speed

woah. I dont know if I should laugh hysterically or be offended..

take it as a compliment. he only wishes he had you and jack's awesome powers

pretty sure we all wish we had boost's and jack's powers.

I just wish I had their giant wangs.

in your mouth!!

amirite?

Galapogos != Bigred

[bigred]

and are running at nigger speed

woah. I dont know if I should laugh hysterically or be offended..

take it as a compliment. he only wishes he had you and jack's awesome powers

pretty sure we all wish we had boost's and jack's powers.

Anyone else just have the epiphany that our two black members' names can be related to car stealing?

Nigga stole my bike!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL7nX9W3aOU

[boost]

you one funny pasty motha fucka.

[Jack Sawyer]

hahahahahahaha!