Round 5: The RIAA vs George W. Bush

[spoonitnow]

Begin.

[Micro2Macro]

Damn these are good

[WillburForce]

George Bush is the American dream. He proves that even a fking retard can make it to the top. This must have given hope to all Americans whatever their level on the evolutionary scale.

Ps I voted Bush. He is everything I despise (moneyed, right wing, religious, ignorant) rolled up into one particularly stupid individual.

[BennyLaRue]

Might as well be RIAA vs. Cancer. No contest.

[rong]

George Bush is the American dream. He proves that even a fking retard can make it to the top. This must have given hope to all Americans whatever their level on the evolutionary scale.

Thats beautiful!


But come on now, Bush is a legend, that man practically created a new language.

He has also done one truly wonderful thing............. proved to everyone what a bunch of dumb assed people live in America, cos remember one thing Americans........ you voted for him! And twice, you fucking stupid stupid stupid people. Hopefully now the world will never ever allow America to lead it again.

[rong]

BTW I voted for George W!

[Jack Sawyer]

Ha, now this is a tough one.

[Ragnar4]

How many people has the RIAA killed? How many Americans has the RIAA gotten killed due to a stupid oil agenda?

Also you tards are way too sensitive over music.

[bigred]

ezgame, down with bush

[boost]

ya, this is super easy imo.

[Jack Sawyer]

On pure evil and stupid and taking advantage of even stupider people, its a tie.
On accounts of scale, W. gets the edge.

I guess its W. by a nose.

[Illfavor]

This isn't close. People who cause murder/war/rape/are white/loss of rights will always go down in flames. I hate this goddamn motherfucking faggot.

[boost]

This isn't close. People who cause murder/war/rape/are white/loss of rights will always go down in flames. I hate this goddamn motherfucking faggot.

lol youre post is funny on quite a few levels.

[KoRnholio]

George Bush is the American dream. He proves that with enough money and family connections even a fking retard can make it to the top. This must have given hope to all Americans whatever their level on the evolutionary scale.

FYP.

[wufwugy]

Don't get me started

FWIW, Cheney was worse, Bush was about as much of a puppet as we've had as POTUS, but he did start cleaning up his act a wee bit at some point after the second election. This doesn't get him off the hook, though

And Bush didn't even beat Gore. Bush won via conservative partisanship in the Supreme Court. Just imagine, if all the self-proclaimed moderates would've quit being such dumbfucks and instead just read a book once in a while and realize that the data and history demonstrates that corporate conservatism is terrible public policy and stop voting for these liars and idiots then we wouldn't have had to put up with Bush in the first place

But no matter how bad Bush was, he wasn't neaaaaaaaaaaarly as bad as the GOP platform itself. While Bush deserves as much of the bad rap he's gotten, most have made a mistake in putting too much blame on him and too little blame on the GOP, conservatism, and voters

Another thing is that people tend to not realize that Bush wasn't some aberration in Republican politics, and the current turmoil in the GOP also isn't some aberration. This stuff began several decades ago, mainly popularized by Reagan. But on top of that, the last four decades of corporate interests running the GOP policy wasn't even new then. It was also around before the Great Depression, actually caused the Great Depression (exactly like how corporate-GOP policy caused the current recession, but due to this Depression it lost its power to liberalism, which fixed everything), and we only had a few decades after the end of the GD of actual progressive policy creating liberty and high median incomes beyond any seen previously before the country forgot about it all and let the top tier earners hijack a party yet again and trick the voters into thinking they were for actual decent policy.

[spoonitnow]

What I think is interesting is how the criteria for which is worse keeps changing. Additionally, I didn't expect this many votes this quickly. However, all of this is setting up round 6, which will be the mother of all polls.

[flomo]

i voted for george bush. i always vote for george bush.

GO BUSH!!!!!

[d0zer]

these threads are getting less and less close.

[kevster]

Bring on round 6!!

[a500lbgorilla]

i voted for george bush. i always vote for george bush.

GO BUSH!!!!!

hearty lols

[spoonitnow]

these threads are getting less and less close.

Or people could be getting less and less logical about their answers. I mean, at this point we have Bush being worse than Christianity, but one of the first things people pointed out was something like how many people died because of Bush's agenda.

[a500lbgorilla]

I think I voted by what medium the people were being douchebags through. Lawsuits for religion dbags, dbags for animals, dbags running countries. All those seem worse than lawsuits for music dbags.

[spoonitnow]

I think I voted by what medium the people were being douchebags through. Lawsuits for religion dbags, dbags for animals, dbags running countries. All those seem worse than lawsuits for music dbags.

Maybe we should do dwarfman v the RIAA for 2nd place, eh?

[a500lbgorilla]

nah, youthful dbaggery is the lightest form of dbag.

[wufwugy]

these threads are getting less and less close.

Or people could be getting less and less logical about their answers. I mean, at this point we have Bush being worse than Christianity, but one of the first things people pointed out was something like how many people died because of Bush's agenda.

This should be predicted, though. FWIW, if Christianity was against the last few I still would have voted for it, but that's not nearly as fun as being presented with new and novel matchups

[spoonitnow]

these threads are getting less and less close.

Or people could be getting less and less logical about their answers. I mean, at this point we have Bush being worse than Christianity, but one of the first things people pointed out was something like how many people died because of Bush's agenda.

This should be predicted, though. FWIW, if Christianity was against the last few I still would have voted for it, but that's not nearly as fun as being presented with new and novel matchups

It wasssssssssssss which is part of the reason these are so amusing [to me]. Imagine if we did Hitler vs X for Round 1. Would he still be around in round 6?

[Gobbatino]

Oh man Bush is going a long ways in this. It'll be a challenge finding something to trump this one.

[Gobbatino]

This should be predicted, though. FWIW, if Christianity was against the last few I still would have voted for it, but that's not nearly as fun as being presented with new and novel matchups

This.

[wufwugy]

Oh man Bush is going a long ways in this. It'll be a challenge finding something to trump this one.

Naw spoon still hasn't busted out one of the ultimate winners which I'm positive he's saving

[spoonitnow]

Oh man Bush is going a long ways in this. It'll be a challenge finding something to trump this one.

Naw spoon still hasn't busted out one of the ultimate winners which I'm positive he's saving

Yeah I'm spacing them out though to keep this thing going for a while.

[rong]

these threads are getting less and less close.

Or people could be getting less and less logical about their answers. I mean, at this point we have Bush being worse than Christianity, but one of the first things people pointed out was something like how many people died because of Bush's agenda.

Christianity, or any religion for that matter, has never killed anyone. Whilst people may use religion for their moral stance and justification of their acts, it isn't the religion that causes the problem, its the lunatic representing it.

[wufwugy]

these threads are getting less and less close.

Or people could be getting less and less logical about their answers. I mean, at this point we have Bush being worse than Christianity, but one of the first things people pointed out was something like how many people died because of Bush's agenda.

Christianity, or any religion for that matter, has never killed anyone. Whilst people may use religion for their moral stance and justification of their acts, it isn't the religion that causes the problem, its the lunatic representing it.

The notion that it's just the person, not the philosophy, is bogus. While certain genetic types are more prone to violence, ideologies play gigantic roles as well.

The science and history behind this has shown that normal, healthy people engage in practice based on what they believe, and these beliefs often coincide with extreme measures and violence. It can run much deeper than cognitive ideological beliefs, however. This is brainwashing, and it's far more inclusive, pervasive, and deadly than most think. It explains things like why the vast majority of the Third Reich German people were faithful Nazis, why the GOP constituency remains with their party, and even super mundane, everyday life stuff.

[Gobbatino]

these threads are getting less and less close.

Or people could be getting less and less logical about their answers. I mean, at this point we have Bush being worse than Christianity, but one of the first things people pointed out was something like how many people died because of Bush's agenda.

Christianity, or any religion for that matter, has never killed anyone. Whilst people may use religion for their moral stance and justification of their acts, it isn't the religion that causes the problem, its the lunatic representing it.

I hope that's a level. Otherwise you're delusional.

You mean to say when a religion's holy book says shit like:

'Mohammed said, “Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him.”' (Hadith Al Buhkari vol. 9:57)

or

"Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you," says the LORD. "Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction". (Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)

and then people go ahead and do it, you're blaming the people and not the "holy" texts that ordered them to do it, threatening eternal suffering should they not?

Seriously. Delusional.

[a500lbgorilla]

these threads are getting less and less close.

Or people could be getting less and less logical about their answers. I mean, at this point we have Bush being worse than Christianity, but one of the first things people pointed out was something like how many people died because of Bush's agenda.

Christianity, or any religion for that matter, has never killed anyone. Whilst people may use religion for their moral stance and justification of their acts, it isn't the religion that causes the problem, its the lunatic representing it.

I hope that's a level. Otherwise you're delusional.

You mean to say when a religion's holy book says shit like:

'Mohammed said, “Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him.”' (Hadith Al Buhkari vol. 9:57)

or

"Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you," says the LORD. "Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction". (Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)

and then people go ahead and do it, you're blaming the people and not the "holy" texts that ordered them to do it, threatening eternal suffering should they not?

Seriously. Delusional.

I can see how you might be able to squeeze out the claim that religions are responsible for killing people based on those passages, sure. But that's simply because you're reading it like a radical religious lunatic. Read by sober, sane eyes, those passages simply say love life and shower daily in the praise of the lord.

[rong]

these threads are getting less and less close.

Or people could be getting less and less logical about their answers. I mean, at this point we have Bush being worse than Christianity, but one of the first things people pointed out was something like how many people died because of Bush's agenda.

Christianity, or any religion for that matter, has never killed anyone. Whilst people may use religion for their moral stance and justification of their acts, it isn't the religion that causes the problem, its the lunatic representing it.

I hope that's a level. Otherwise you're delusional.

You mean to say when a religion's holy book says shit like:

'Mohammed said, “Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him.”' (Hadith Al Buhkari vol. 9:57)

or

"Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you," says the LORD. "Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction". (Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)

and then people go ahead and do it, you're blaming the people and not the "holy" texts that ordered them to do it, threatening eternal suffering should they not?

Seriously. Delusional.

I can see how you might be able to squeeze out the claim that religions are responsible for killing people based on those passages, sure. But that's simply because you're reading it like a radical religious lunatic. Read by sober, sane eyes, those passages simply say love life and shower daily in the praise of the lord.

Exactly, no one is brainwashed by religion, they're brainwashed by a lunatic using religion. I am in no way religious, but I don't see a problem with religion in general, in fact I think for most people it helps them become more considerate and caring members of society. The general message in most religions is of love and harmony.

[spoonitnow]

Love and harmony and burning witches and condemning homosexuals and banning internet poker.

[Jack Sawyer]

hahaha, I predict W. vs. Frist.

[Gobbatino]

these threads are getting less and less close.

Or people could be getting less and less logical about their answers. I mean, at this point we have Bush being worse than Christianity, but one of the first things people pointed out was something like how many people died because of Bush's agenda.

Christianity, or any religion for that matter, has never killed anyone. Whilst people may use religion for their moral stance and justification of their acts, it isn't the religion that causes the problem, its the lunatic representing it.

I hope that's a level. Otherwise you're delusional.

You mean to say when a religion's holy book says shit like:

'Mohammed said, “Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him.”' (Hadith Al Buhkari vol. 9:57)

or

"Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you," says the LORD. "Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction". (Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)

and then people go ahead and do it, you're blaming the people and not the "holy" texts that ordered them to do it, threatening eternal suffering should they not?

Seriously. Delusional.

I can see how you might be able to squeeze out the claim that religions are responsible for killing people based on those passages, sure. But that's simply because you're reading it like a radical religious lunatic. Read by sober, sane eyes, those passages simply say love life and shower daily in the praise of the lord.

Exactly, no one is brainwashed by religion, they're brainwashed by a lunatic using religion. I am in no way religious, but I don't see a problem with religion in general, in fact I think for most people it helps them become more considerate and caring members of society. The general message in most religions is of love and harmony.

Ok so you let the killing go by because the general message is of love and harmony. If that makes sense for you, go for it.

I take it condemning the use of childbirth control (i.e. condoms, which is a lot of countries means you'll get AIDS at some point or another), stunting scientific research (stem cell research, etc), indoctrinating children (Jesus camp) and all the other shit that comes as a side effect of religion are ok too, because hey, their message is one of love and happiness and harmony and consideration, amairait.

Also, the post you quoted = sarcasm.

[boost]

lol if you really want to offer the idea that religion is inherently good and only corrupted by evil people, then you only can support your argument by dismissing the text that form the basis of the religions. If we do this the only thing you can back your argument up with is the word of fanatically 'good' religious people who opposed the fanatically 'bad' ones. But why would you chose to do this? What basis do you have to pick one over the other?

Case in point: if you dont give religion credit for the inquisition, then on what merit are you awarding it credit for any good its done?

[kevster]

Overjoyed at getting my internet connection working in my Belgium hotel, I am somewhat disappointed to find this round still going.

Anyways, spoon deserves a commune gold star.

[wufwugy]

Yahweh ordered the slaughter, rape, and torture of hundreds of thousands of men, women, children, and babies. And this is just direct stuff, none of the indirect evil compounded into billions of ruined lives which he caused. If you read the Bible you'll see this. You'll also see that Yahweh suggests that smashing babies' heads apart on rocks can be a source of happiness. That's kind of a side point, though.


AronG, you're way out of your league. Please disregard everything you think on this matter until you've thoroughly researched the topic. Your statement

no one is brainwashed by religion

is one of several examples showing that you misunderstand the topic of brainwashing on a fundamental level. This would be like me saying "evolution makes new species to be born from old species". To the uneducated, that sounds reasonable, but that is completely false and misleading statement.

Your ideas on this topic may sound reasonable to you, but so did the geocentric universe to millions of people. It's not about what makes sense, it's about what logically fits the empirical data. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm trying to let you know that according to the logical interpretation of the data, you're wrong, and that this provides an opportunity to learn

[bikes]

Life sucks when you agree with wufwugy and really want to FHP with a hi i'm wufwugy.