Bottom set and I know I'm behind

[RockyMoose]

How did I play this? I wish I had the hand history here, sorry.

Full table STT $5.50, blinds are 25/50. Hero has ~1500 chips, is in middle position with

55

1 limper, hero limps, 1 more limper, and the blinds call/check.

Flop: 567 two spades, 5 players

sb checks. bb bets the pot, UTG+1 calls.

Hero raises big. I clicked the "Pot" button. I have ~900 left behind.

The guy to my left calls! Uh-oh! Folds around, and the bb shoves all in!

BB has me covered, the guy to my left has ~800 hundred chips left and will call, I'm sure.

Ok, so I only have a few seconds to decide, and I know I am behind. Someone has a straight, maybe both of them. Guy on my left probably has a flush or straight draw and doesn't know pot odds. If one of them has a higher set, I'm dead. I can't for the life of me remember the odds for a set to improve to a boat or quads, but the pot odds are huge, with all the dead money, it's almost 4:1. I decide I'm committed to my draw: the odds are good, and if I win I'll be in position to dominate the rest of the tournament.

So I call. The board pairs on the river, I chip up massively and go on to take 1st in the tourney.

BB had 3h4h for the ass-end of the straight. The guy to my left had 88.

Yay for me, but did I make the right choice? I looked up the odds for a set to improve, so I think my big call was ok. Was raising my bottom set on such a poorly textured flop bad?

(Really wish I kept the hand history. Ugh. Great learning hand for me. Thanks!)

[TLR]

I am trying to follow the action and it makes little sense
Blinds 25/50 - 5 seeing the flop means there are 250 chips in the pot.
BB bets pot (i.e bets 250), UTG calls 250, pot is 750 now, Hero raises pot - pot raise means calling the 250 and adding another 1000, so now pot has 2000 in it and hero has 200 behind (since you had roughly 1500), but you wrote that you had 900 behind, so something does not add up here

[RockyMoose]

I am trying to follow the action and it makes little sense

You're right. It's off. I wish I had the HH. I think my mistake is the size of the opening flop bet. SB bet 150 into a 250 pot, not a psb. The math works out from there, and it means I had ~950 behind when I raised by clicking the "pot" button.

[drmcboy]

250 + 150 + 150 +150 (your call) = 700

your limp 50 + your call 150 = 200 so your stack is 1300 after the 'call' on the flop

pot is 700 so pot raise is also 700, you have 600 behind.


But it really doesn't matter, just get it in. You also may as well shove to start with since you are not folding and it would be great if you could fold out a FD or something like 87 since you get most of the equity they leave behind.

In general it seems like you should think more about bet sizing since clearly the one you chose put you in what you thought was a bad spot even though it isn't really surprising that limpers like this board. Think before mashing the bet pot.

[Fortitude]

Pre flop is fine

After the bet and the call, I would probably fold the set this early in the tournament; sure you have a 33% on making a full boat but losing the hand would decrease your tournament equity to 0.

As played, calling the BB AI shove is fine

[99VPIP]

Preflop is a bit loose but fine if you do not have more than 1 player that is laggy/aggressive preflop behind imo. On the flop you should just ship it in because you are most likely ahead of both BB/UTG+1 and taking down 750 now is fine.

[taipan168]

I agree with drmcboy and 99VPIP, I would just shove it in when it gets to me on the flop. I also agree that this is a good example of a hand where bet sizing is important (and more specifically, how choosing the wrong bet size can put you into a potentially difficult position).

As played, I would pretty much never fold a set on this board - with all the chips that are already in the pot you've got more than enough equity to fill up/quad up on the turn and river ASSUMING that somebody already has a straight and you in fact do need to improve.