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I really butchered this hand

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  1. #1

    Default I really butchered this hand

    Should i shove pre, shove flop, limp along?

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 5.5 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    SB (t1500)
    BB (t1500)
    UTG (t1500)
    UTG+1 (t1500)
    MP1 (t1500)
    MP2 (t1500)
    MP3 (t1500)
    Hero (CO) (t1500)
    Button (t1500)

    Hero's M: 33.33

    Preflop: Hero is CO with ,
    UTG calls t30, UTG+1 calls t30, MP1 calls t30, MP2 calls t30, MP3 calls t30, Hero bets t270, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls t240, 3 folds

    Flop: (t705) , , (2 players)
    UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t390, UTG+1 raises to t1230 (All-In), Hero folds

    Total pot: t1485
  2. #2
    Preflop play looks fine but I would check the flop behind.
  3. #3
    I would raise a little less preflop. 200 or so should be enough to clear out the limpers. This keeps the pot a little smaller so your flop c-bet can also be smaller.

    As played, I don't hate c-betting this flop, particularly after opp checks. This is a safe flop to c-bet and I would expect to take the pot down often enough to justify the chips you are risking.
  4. #4
    I like checking the flop because c-betting turns a potentially good hand into a bluff. With two over cards and back door straight draw, I would like to check it behind. I generally c-bet this board when I have air or when I want to extract value.
  5. #5
    i c bet most boards here but this one I would also check, if he has misplayed 33-JJ (and surely his range is almost all PPs) this badly I doubt he'll fold them now. he also may think you're slow playing a big pair and give you two free cards.
  6. #6
    I honestly dont think you butchered this hand. You can argue for raising a bit more or a bit less pre.. maybe c bet 280-300 on the flop. This board is so dry you shouldnt need much to get him off his air. And for that reason I feel that checking the flop is too weak, you have showed tremendous strength by raising a large field of limpers pre and your villain has shown nothing but weakness thus far (Limp/calling/Checking flop) Looks like he just made a bad preflop call and outflopped you. I like this hand as played
  7. #7
    I would raise 200 preflop.

    Because of the size of the raise and villian's play I think his likely range is mid PP or slowplayed high PP, I agree with drmcboy that he is unlikely to fold, I would check behind


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