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  1. #1

    Default $12/180 BB special top and bottom pair

    No reads on any of these players, this is 7th hand of the tourney. The turn does fill some straight draws, so what do I do with all this action after I lead?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 12 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG (t3127)
    UTG+1 (t2100)
    MP1 (t1487)
    MP2 (t1006)
    MP3 (t1450)
    CO (t1720)
    Button (t1390)
    SB (t1480)
    Hero (BB) (t1240)

    Hero's M: 41.33

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 10, 5
    UTG calls t20, 1 fold, MP1 calls t20, 4 folds, SB calls t10, Hero checks

    Flop: (t80) 5, 8, 10 (4 players)
    1 fold, Hero bets t80, UTG calls t80, MP1 calls t80

    Turn: (t320) 7 (3 players)
    Hero bets t250, UTG raises to t520, MP1 calls t520, Hero ????
  2. #2
    id fold here, not much invested and with 2 other limpers that have basically min raised you and the other called him there's a good chance one could have a straight already maybe even both. we're way behind alot here. its still early fold and move on...
  3. #3
    yeah, just tank it and decide someone had T8 and you saved a bundle. even if you're still good every river will look terrible and you can't be ahead of their range to call a shove.
  4. #4
    Fold.

    That much action and your 2 pair is usually not gonna be good anymore, at least not often enough for you to see a river (most of which suck b/c they complete a straight or make a better 2 pair for Tx, or you were beat already) or get it in now. I just don't see many 1 pair hands taking the line UTG took, MP1 on the other hand might be terrible or have J9. Also, that there are no flush draws and only pair + straight draw (several of which are unlikely given the action), and that is another worrisome factor. You are not really getting the correct implied odds for hitting the boat either.

    Did you see how UTG doubled up?? That might help with reads but probably still a fold with any read I can imagine since you still do not know what mp1 has and he is repping J9 or completely retarded.
  5. #5
    Yeah I also think fold
  6. #6
    yeah fold
  7. #7
    You are getting almost 6:1 on this call even though it looks like utg was a donk and limped J-9.... If you hit the 10 or 5 on the river obviously you are getting paid off by these fish.

    This early in a $12/180 I think you should check this flop. Leading is a good play too, but I think you can check raise big early in a $12/180 in this spot so often. Say the utg donk fires 60 and the other guy calls, now you can pop it to 300 and get the rest of your chips in on the turn super easy.

    Later in the game depending on stack sizes and whatnot I might lead this. However on this flop early in the mtt, I would go for the check raise and hope the donk can't fold 10-X hands.

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