BOYCOTT SIT N GO's

[SohoNYC]

Boycott online poker tournaments/sit n go's



Online poker tournaments/sit n go's have approached the point where just about all participants in them lose. With the poker sites charging between 8% and 10% of every prize pool, it's just about guaranteed every player loses. The games are terrible. Everyone is playing extremely tight, everyone understands proper push/shove ranges. There is barely any skill to tournament poker. Very few have any edge. Everyone playing is just throwing money away. You are probally losing per tournament what it cost to play per tournament. I'd estimate less than 10% of players break-even. To turn a profit is very difficult. The site owners keep saying online poker is a skill game. The owners of the sites keep lobbying to "keep it legal." Well, poker is NOT A SKILL GAME, WHEN THE HOUSE TAKES ALL THE MONEY. In my opinion, there is no reason whatsoever to play, if you cant make a reasonable profit. You are much better off not playing poker at all. If you are playing poker, it should be for play money. Winning nothing and losing is a hell of alot better than playing where you are guaranteed to lose. The site owners keep lobbying to keep poker legal so they can keep fleecing us. Well, its time for the players to do some "lobbying." I STRONGLY RECOMMEND all poker players stop playing poker tournaments online. Do not play
6-man and 9-man multitable tournament or sngs. Just about all of you will lose. Poker is a zero sum game. With the high rake, its an extremely negative sum game. Do not be delusional and think you are better than your opponents. Most people intelligence is very similiar. Trust me, you do not have an mathetical advantage so its a mathematical certainty you are going to lose in the long run. Until they cut tournament fees 50%, DO NOT PLAY THEM. The days of paying 100+9 or 200+15 need to be over. The only way they'll lower the price is if EVERYONE stops playing. If a business is getting no business at their current prices, THEY WILL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO LOWER PRICES, OR MAKE NO MONEY. DO NOT PLAY POKER TOURNAMENTS ONLINE.DO NOT PLAY POKER TOURNAMENTS ONLINE.DO NOT PLAY POKER TOURNAMENTS ONLINE.
The only reason to play poker for money is to make money for YOURSELF. You should want to make yourself rich. Squandering your money makes others rich and you poor. Why would you want to do that. Playing for any other reason for real money is completely ridiculous. You should be playing poker on the XBOX or something. BOYCOTT TOURNAMENT POKER. I sincerely hope you follow my advice. That is all.





$100+9, 9-man sit n go, $990 total buy-in, $90 goes to the house, 1/12th of every prize pool....90%+ of players lose. Poker tournaments are a casino game, where the house beats just about all the players. THIS CERTAINLY ISNT INVESTING. What an investor would let the middleman take 8% of the total pool of capital right off the top. I think not.
Say a bunch of wallstreet guys wanted to play a $1,000,000.00 9-man sng. Would they be willing to pay one milllion plus ninty thousand dollars to the house. $10,000,000.00 total prize pool, $900,000.00 to the house. NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS WOULD THEY GIVE AWAY $900,000.00 Never in a million years would they agree to 8.3%% of their capital being taken right off the top. One tournament takes less than an hour. What if they played a second one. Another 8.3%....YEAH RIGHT.That's completely insane. well, when you play a 10+1 tournament, it is equivalent. You are letting the middleman take 9% of your capital right off the top. Every tournament all the time. It's absurd. Just all the players lose in the long run. It's beyond obvious. It's astonishing to me there isnt constant discussion and complaints about tournament fees.
BOYCOTT ONLINE POKER TOURNAMENTS.

[BooG690]

LOL. This is one of the more retarded ones.

[kevster]

Goddamn, he's right!!

I've been a fool all these years.

[taipan168]

Stars high buyin SNGs (ie. above $60) have had very minimal traffic for at least a couple of years now but that hasn't prompted them to reduce the vig.

[rong]

I agree with OP.

I can only hope as many winning regs as possible follow his advice and leave me and the fish to enjoy our poker.

[JR9477]

Did you really need to spam every board on every major poker forum? Doing so leads me to believe you're doing this more out of frustration, and less out of desire for discussion, especially considering the tone of your post.
I can understand that past a certain point that SNG's are no longer profitable, but currently lower ones still are easily beatable, so it isn't like there is no money to be made.
This seems really unnecessary, especially considering I doubt this is such a surprise to anyone, especially those playing the higher SNG's stakes. I'm not sure why you're all up in arms about it, a quick heads up to new SNG players, telling them the limits of their growth is certainly understandable. Not sure why I needed to see "BOYCOTT SIT N GO's" everywhere in the latest topics.

[Extremophile]

I boycott people that boycott tournament poker.

[flomo]

In before I bannhammer.

fyp

[rspeirsmlb]

Is this guy joking?

[flomo]

Is this guy joking?

this guy is spamming. Nice deer in your avatar, is that you in the pic?
bow? rifle?


and can i call you Buck?

[rong]

Maybe OP can put his money where his mouth is and take up Naka on his prop bet re: rspeirsmlb making 50 into 1050 in 30 days.

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...le-t89243.html

[rspeirsmlb]

"this guy is spamming. Nice deer in your avatar, is that you in the pic?
bow? rifle?


and can i call you Buck?"

Yes, that's me with my first buck. Shot em in the Upper Penninsula in Michigan where I'm origionally from. 7mm at 30 yards...Yes you can call me buck.....Uncle Buck.

[stepahead]

were you hungry, did you eat it?

[rspeirsmlb]

Yes sir...he's hangin on my wall....world class buck if I woulda shot em with my bow.

[bjsaust]

I thought I saw this same thread in the BC this morning?

Anyway, theres actually some good points for people who can get past trolling, but the title is an overreaction.

[edit] Actually you posted this in heaps of forums, thats just bloody annoying. Wtf are you trying to achieve?

[Jack Sawyer]

play turbo's?

[Nakamura]

Points of OP taken, but if you are hoping to achieve any kind of revolution, I think you might be disappointed. At the lower stakes, I think the rake is very beatable. And besides, I happen to enjoy SNGs.

Sorry, I don't think I will be joining your boycott designed to bring the poker rooms to their knees. Best of luck though. Will you PM though when you succeed in getting PS to drop their rake?

[mrhappy333]

I enjoy forum very much can I haz paswerd?

[ljove]

Thank you for useful informations agent Molder.Don't tell us about your sources.
Your next mission:
Go to Las Vegas and investigate live poker tournaments.
How much goes to house there.

You can always play poker at your house,with your friends,without rake.
YOUR HOUSE YOUR RULES

[spoonitnow]

"this guy is spamming. Nice deer in your avatar, is that you in the pic?
bow? rifle?


and can i call you Buck?"

Yes, that's me with my first buck. Shot em in the Upper Penninsula in Michigan where I'm origionally from. 7mm at 30 yards...Yes you can call me buck.....Uncle Buck.

I could shoot that motherfucker with my dick from there.

[rspeirsmlb]

I could have too. But blood is easier to clean up.