18-man SNG bubble play

[chewbaka]

4 places paid. I figured a call was good enough here as he could be pushing any 2, plus with a stack of 3.5BB, needed to double up for a chance. what do you think?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 6.5 Tournament, 300/600 Blinds (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB (t6810)
Hero (BB) (t2280)
UTG (t5560)
MP (t11595)
Button (t755)

Hero's M: 2.53

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8, A
3 folds, SB bets t6810 (All-In), Hero calls t1680 (All-In)

Flop: (t4560) 9, 4, 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t4560) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t4560) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t4560

[Extremophile]

Doubling our chips is not doubling our chances because if we win will have chips close to 5k and we will still be 4 in chips. Since, button will blind out next cycle, this should be a fold imo.

[Nakamura]

I fold and call the button with any reasonable hand if is he shoves before the bb hits him.

[Raoni_Poker]

Even though this is a good spot to shove over mid-stacks and shorties, its not a good spot to call a shove (especially because there is a villain shorter than you and he will be blinded out soon).

Anyways, calling here is not terrible because you're against a very wide range. It seems to be a slightly +EV call in terms of chips, but I believe its - EV in terms of ICM.

[Lance]

mega easy fold

[reasons14]

Even though this is a good spot to shove over mid-stacks and shorties, its not a good spot to call a shove (especially because there is a villain shorter than you and he will be blinded out soon).

Anyways, calling here is not terrible because you're against a very wide range. It seems to be a slightly +EV call in terms of chips, but I believe its - EV in terms of ICM.

calling off isn't that bad here guys, assuming that villain is on 85% ish. Just because we fold doesn't mean we are going to cash. If sb is tight and only shoves 65% then yeah we can fold. But once villain gets to ~75% then we can argue a call. I think even most brain dead guys shove here pretty wide.

[Nakamura]

Hmm, I just ran the ICM on this and it's a marginal call if opp is shoving 90% of his hands. Given the marginal nature of the hand neither calling or folding is terrible, but I think I lean towards a fold since the button is going to be commited to a hand pretty soon. Plus we have him covered so we can collude with other players to, hopefully, knock him out.

[reasons14]

Yeah it really just depends what min edge you have it on. I change mine depending on the skill level and game that I am playing. In gerneral, I keep it really low so I always know what is profitable and what is not. I would say in general I fold in game and spite call someone I really hate.

[metman04]

i fold it here only because of how low the guy on the button is...i just feel you have to get ur $ in better than A8os when your most likely gonna cash if you fold

[nuklearwintr]

yeah you have to fold this because A-8o isn't strong enough vs. villians range to play for your tournament here. Fold and win money.