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QQ against 3-bet by winning multitabler ($27)

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  1. #1

    Default QQ against 3-bet by winning multitabler ($27)

    Opp is a seriously winning multitabler. I have thousands of hands on him and his range is pretty tight here. Is this line too weaksauce?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 27 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB (t320)
    UTG (t1480)
    UTG+1 (t1890)
    MP1 (t1440)
    MP2 (t2410)
    MP3 (t1510)
    CO (t1430)
    Button (t1500)
    Hero (SB) (t1520)

    Hero's M: 33.78

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q
    UTG bets t60, 1 fold, MP1 calls t60, 2 folds, CO raises to t240, 1 fold, Hero calls t225, 3 folds

    Flop: (t630) 6, K, 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets t390, Hero folds
  2. #2
    As played I'm ok with the fold on the flop but me personally I probably would have re-raised or even just shoved pre-flop.
  3. #3
    I would play it the same way. Preflop 3-betting commiting us, thats why i would just call or even fold, yea it sounds nitty, but if i know that the opp is a regular and his range is probably JJ+, AK i have no problem to fold at early stage.
    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe" (Albert Einstein)
  4. #4
    Well played if his range here is JJ+,AK


  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    Well played if his range here is JJ+,AK
    agreed. If you have a HUD what is his 3bet stat?
    Poker is easy, it's winning at poker that's hard.
  6. #6
    Also, what is your line here if the flop is all unders to your Q?
    Poker is easy, it's winning at poker that's hard.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH
    Also, what is your line here if the flop is all unders to your Q?
    This is the real question and there is a real risk of bad reverse implied odds here because it's likely I'm going broke on an undercard flop.

    For more difficult situations, I cross-post on 2+2. If anybody's interested, the thread is below. Interestingly the consensus by the regs (in that thread I named Villain - Method999) was that folding preflop was the best move.

    http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...tabler-599835/
  8. #8
    The point was raised on the 2+2 thread that UTG raise was a min-raise, which I think is pretty crucial. I see people doing this with a huge range of rubbish/speculative hands, so I think villain's range is wider than a typical 3-bet range. I'd shove over rather than calling, but bear in mind I've only played $22s and below, so probably have nfi
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH
    Also, what is your line here if the flop is all unders to your Q?
    This is the real question and there is a real risk of bad reverse implied odds here because it's likely I'm going broke on an undercard flop.

    For more difficult situations, I cross-post on 2+2. If anybody's interested, the thread is below. Interestingly the consensus by the regs (in that thread I named Villain - Method999) was that folding preflop was the best move.

    http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...tabler-599835/
    that's kinda where I was headed with the question. If you really believe his range is ultra tight then a fold here isn't a bad play.
    Poker is easy, it's winning at poker that's hard.
  10. #10

    Default Re: QQ against 3-bet by winning multitabler ($27)

    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Opp is a seriously winning multitabler.
    Why do you think this ?
    He is a break even player after 35k games
    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe" (Albert Einstein)
  11. #11

    Default Re: QQ against 3-bet by winning multitabler ($27)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lance
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Opp is a seriously winning multitabler.
    Why do you think this ?
    He is a break even player after 35k games
    Now that's dedication....
  12. #12

    Default Re: QQ against 3-bet by winning multitabler ($27)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lance
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Opp is a seriously winning multitabler.
    Why do you think this ?
    He is a break even player after 35k games
    Really?

    Method999 36,518 $1 $34 3% $22,570 - 77 PokerStars SNG Only x

    He does have some leaks which regulars can exploit, but he is in general a solid multitabler.
  13. #13

    Default Re: QQ against 3-bet by winning multitabler ($27)

    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Quote Originally Posted by Lance
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Opp is a seriously winning multitabler.
    Why do you think this ?
    He is a break even player after 35k games
    Really?

    Method999 36,518 $1 $34 3% $22,570 - 77 PokerStars SNG Only x

    He does have some leaks which regulars can exploit, but he is in general a solid multitabler.
    Lol, today damn pokerprolabs shows something different



    OK, he is a pro
    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe" (Albert Einstein)

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