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AJ on an A22 flop to check/raise AI ($27)

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  1. #1

    Default AJ on an A22 flop to check/raise AI ($27)

    From memory these guys were your standard loose players, can't remember exact HUD stats but they were both around 30/5 from memory.

    I'm beat with the cold call and check/raise AI, no?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 27 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG+1 (t1450)
    MP1 (t1625)
    Hero (MP2) (t2140)
    CO (t1290)
    Button (t1330)
    SB (t1935)
    BB (t1495)
    UTG (t2235)

    Hero's M: 28.53

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J, A
    3 folds, Hero bets t150, CO calls t150, 2 folds, BB calls t100

    Flop: (t475) 2, 2, A (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets t350, CO calls t350, BB raises to t1345 (All-In), Hero ????
  2. #2
    30/5 isn't loose in my book unless it was just up to this point in this tourney.

    Oh, and I fold here as well although I hate doing it.
    Poker is easy, it's winning at poker that's hard.
  3. #3
    You face KsJs and ATo
    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe" (Albert Einstein)
  4. #4
    I'm always tempted to call these, but would fold. CO probably has the flush draw, but I'm not sure what BB would do this with, that you beat. I don't see him doing this with AT or worse, unless he's really bad. He could have AQ I suppose.
  5. #5
    Would BB c/r squeeze with a flush draw? If you were BB with KQs, how would you play this hand?

    I fold here and am grumpy about it.
  6. #6
    It seems like the BB's range here could include a lot of Ax's. After what may perceived to be a standard c-bet and a cold-call, the BB squeezing with any A seems quite likely. The BB could conclude it would be unlikely the CO has an A with a FD out there, as he probably would have raised to protect his hand.

    I would probably think about it for a bit and fold, but it seems close.
  7. #7
    Interestingly enough I cross-posted this on 2+2 and the consensus was to snap call:

    http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...aise-ai-600931
  8. #8
    not very many responses though and honestly when I first read this my initial thought was snap call in a MTT, but in a SNG I just think it is close enough to wait for a better edge.
    Poker is easy, it's winning at poker that's hard.
  9. #9
    Weird spot, actually the only real hand I am scared of is AQ

    I still think I call this


  10. #10
    I'm interested to know why some people on 2+2 are saying BB's range could include PPs or Ax hands. Are players really that loose at the $27s?

    BB called pre-flop after an MP2 raise and a call in-between. I can see him having a PP at this stage, and is calling to hit a set. Would someone really call here with a hand like AT or A9 though?

    After the flop, BB check-raises all-in after two players have put another 350 chips each into the pot. There is an A on board, so why would he do this with a PP?
  11. #11
    I really could not work it out either, I definitely put CO on some kind of flush draw or Ax and the only realistic hands that BB could have that beat me would be AQ, AK or AA - and they could easily have a worse Ax that they wanted to pull the C-R AI with.

    Anyway I did end up calling.
  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Rage2100
    I'm interested to know why some people on 2+2 are saying BB's range could include PPs or Ax hands. Are players really that loose at the $27s?
    He is getting a bit of a discount in the BB, so I expect a loosish player to play many Ax or PP type hands here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rage2100
    After the flop, BB check-raises all-in after two players have put another 350 chips each into the pot. There is an A on board, so why would he do this with a PP?
    Standard squeeze play, after a c-bet and cold-call, with a PP or any Ax, if he thinks Hero will only be calling with AJ+ type hands. I imagine this is why folks on 2+2 are suggesting a snap-call.
  13. #13
    When you get cold called pre with these stacks I wouldn't make many folds assuming someone has AQ/AK, especially the BB but either one really.
  14. #14
    Not folding ever.
  15. #15
    I know results don't matter, but I am still super curious about this one. What did they have?
  16. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by RockyMoose
    I know results don't matter, but I am still super curious about this one. What did they have?
    CO had KsJs and BB had AKo.

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