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    Default trimmed tournament (6.50 turbo) - review please

    after taking a longer break i'm now playing sngs again starting with the 6.50 turbo at stars. although i'm quite confident about my play, i'm afraid that i'm missing some shoves in late game (eg. the 7 K beetween hand 8 and 9)

    regarding the 1st hand: at these stakes i'm sometimes openpushing aces and kings in the first hand. you'll get a caller surprisingyl often with AK, QQ, TT.


    ---Tournament Summary---
    $6.5 TSNG: Finished 4/9, payout unknown
    Data for 56 hands.
    You played 9 hands (16.07%)
    You raised 8 times preflop (14.29%)

    The Tournament Trimmer (v2.0) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com

    -----Hand 1-----
    Hero's M = 50.00
    PokerStars Game #33874148974: Tournament #202634439, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/10/10 22:40:17 CET [2009/10/10 16:40:17 ET]
    Table '202634439 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: thrilos 799 (1500)
    Seat 2: phillyfan19 (1500)
    Seat 3: dchap52 (1500)
    Seat 4: makavelli305 (1500)
    Seat 5: Wraitor (1500)
    Seat 6: pgera (1500)
    Seat 7: Hero (1500)
    Seat 8: petsun (1500)
    Seat 9: chickenstick (1500)
    phillyfan19: posts small blind 10
    dchap52: posts big blind 20
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero A A
    makavelli305: folds
    Wraitor: folds
    pgera: folds
    Hero: raises 1480 to 1500 and is all-in
    petsun: folds
    chickenstick: folds
    thrilos 799: folds
    phillyfan19: folds
    dchap52: folds
    Uncalled bet (1480) returned to Hero
    Hero collected 50

    K 6 UTG+2 (Hero's M = 51.00; f+r+F+f+c+r+c+c+c+c+c+s+s+s+s+b+f+c+c+f+c+s+s+s+b+c+c+f+s+s+s)
    3 4 UTG+1 (Hero's M = 51.00; f+F+c+f+c+f+c+r+f+c+c+c+s+b+c+c+c+s+b+c+f+c+s+b+r+f+c)
    3 7 UTG (Hero's M = 51.00; F+[/color]r+f+f+f+c+c+f+f+b+f+c+b+f)
    A 9 BB (Hero's M = 34.00; f+f+f+f+f+f+r+f+F)
    4 5 SB (Hero's M = 33.33; f+c+f+r+f+f+f+F+c+c+b+c+c+b+r+f+c+b+c)
    Q 8 Button (Hero's M = 33.00; r+f+r+f+f+f+F+f+f+r+c+s+s+b+f)
    7 8 CO (Hero's M = 33.00; f+c+f+f+c+F+f+c+s+b+f+r+f+r+r+c)
    T 4 MP (Hero's M = 33.00; f+c+f+f+F+r+r+f+f+f+c)
    6 8 MP2 (Hero's M = 19.80; f+f+f+F+f+c+c+c+s+s+s+s+b+f+f+f)
    7 Q UTG+2 (Hero's M = 19.80; f+f+F+f+f+c+f+c+r+f+f)
    J Q UTG+1 (Hero's M = 19.80; f+F+f+f+f+r+f+f+f)
    Q 2 UTG (Hero's M = 19.80; F+f+[/color]c+f+r+f+f+f+f+c+s+s+s+s+s+s)
    6 K BB (Hero's M = 19.80; f+f+c+f+r+f+f+f+F+c+s+b+f)
    T 8 SB (Hero's M = 19.13; c+f+f+f+f+f+f+F+s+b+f)
    3 3 Button (Hero's M = 9.40; c+f+f+r+f+f+F+f+f+c)
    4 A CO (Hero's M = 9.40; f+c+f+f+f+F+f+c+s+s+s+s+s+s+s+s+s+s)
    6 7 MP (Hero's M = 9.40; f+f+c+f+F+c+f+f+r+f+f)
    Q 7 MP2 (Hero's M = 9.40; f+f+r+F+f+f+f+f+f)
    T A UTG+2 (Hero's M = 9.40; c+f+F+f+f+f+c+c+s+s+s+b+c+c+f+s+s+b+f+f)

    -----Hand 2-----
    Hero's M = 6.27
    PokerStars Game #33874877209: Tournament #202634439, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/10/10 23:00:52 CET [2009/10/10 17:00:52 ET]
    Table '202634439 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: thrilos 799 (3420)
    Seat 2: phillyfan19 (2265)
    Seat 3: dchap52 (555)
    Seat 4: makavelli305 (1540)
    Seat 5: Wraitor (940)
    Seat 6: pgera (1390)
    Seat 7: Hero (1410)
    Seat 8: petsun (460)
    Seat 9: chickenstick (1520)
    makavelli305: posts small blind 75
    Wraitor: posts big blind 150
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero A J
    pgera: folds
    Hero: raises 1260 to 1410 and is all-in
    petsun: folds
    chickenstick: folds
    thrilos 799: folds
    phillyfan19: folds
    dchap52: folds
    makavelli305: calls 1335
    Wraitor: folds
    Flop: J 4 2
    Turn: T
    River: 8
    Showdown
    makavelli305: shows 9 9 (a pair of Nines)
    Hero: shows A J (a pair of Jacks)
    Hero collected 2970

    6 7 UTG (Hero's M = 13.20; F+f+f+[/color]c+f+f+c+f+s+s+b+f)
    2 Q BB (Hero's M = 13.20; f+f+f+f+f+r+f+r+F)
    Q 2 SB (Hero's M = 12.53; f+f+f+f+f+r+f+F+f)
    6 T Button (Hero's M = 12.20; f+f+c+r+f+f+F+c+c+c+b+c)
    3 T CO (Hero's M = 9.15; f+f+f+F+r+f+f)
    5 3 MP (Hero's M = 9.15; r+f+F+f+f+f+f)
    T 5 UTG+1 (Hero's M = 9.15; f+F+c+f+f+f+s+b+f)
    T 7 UTG (Hero's M = 9.15; F+f+[/color]r+f+f+f+f)

    -----Hand 3-----
    Hero's M = 9.15
    PokerStars Game #33875164871: Tournament #202634439, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/10/10 23:08:24 CET [2009/10/10 17:08:24 ET]
    Table '202634439 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: thrilos 799 (3510)
    Seat 2: phillyfan19 (1965)
    Seat 4: makavelli305 (1630)
    Seat 5: Wraitor (1440)
    Seat 6: pgera (1115)
    Seat 7: Hero (2745)
    Seat 9: chickenstick (1095)
    pgera: posts small blind 100
    Hero: posts big blind 200
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero Q K
    chickenstick: folds
    thrilos 799: folds
    phillyfan19: folds
    makavelli305: folds
    Wraitor: raises 400 to 600
    pgera: folds
    Hero: raises 2145 to 2745 and is all-in
    Wraitor: folds
    Uncalled bet (2145) returned to Hero
    Hero collected 1300

    9 3 SB (Hero's M = 11.48; f+f+r+f+f+F+r+c)
    8 4 Button (Hero's M = 11.15; f+f+f+f+F+c+s+s+s+s+s+b+f)
    Q T CO (Hero's M = 11.15; r+f+f+F+f+f+f)
    A 3 MP (Hero's M = 11.07; f+r+F+c+f+f+f)
    Q 6 UTG (Hero's M = 10.98; F+[/color]c+f+f+f+s+b+f)

    -----Hand 4-----
    Hero's M = 10.90
    PokerStars Game #33875300968: Tournament #202634439, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2009/10/10 23:12:01 CET [2009/10/10 17:12:01 ET]
    Table '202634439 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: thrilos 799 (3135)
    Seat 2: phillyfan19 (1590)
    Seat 4: makavelli305 (635)
    Seat 5: Wraitor (1215)
    Seat 7: Hero (3270)
    Seat 9: chickenstick (3655)
    Wraitor: posts small blind 100
    Hero: posts big blind 200
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero A 8
    chickenstick: calls 200
    thrilos 799: folds
    phillyfan19: folds
    makavelli305: raises 410 to 610 and is all-in
    Wraitor: folds
    Hero: calls 410
    chickenstick: calls 410
    Flop: 3 6 2
    Hero: checks
    chickenstick: checks
    Turn: K
    Hero: checks
    chickenstick: checks
    River: 4
    Hero: checks
    chickenstick: checks
    Showdown
    Hero: shows A 8 (high card Ace)
    chickenstick: shows 5 5 (a straight, Deuce to Six)
    chickenstick collected 2080
    makavelli305 (button): mucked 3 A

    9 4 SB (Hero's M = 8.78; f+f+r+F+c+s+b+f)

    -----Hand 5-----
    Hero's M = 8.37
    PokerStars Game #33875389589: Tournament #202634439, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2009/10/10 23:14:22 CET [2009/10/10 17:14:22 ET]
    Table '202634439 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: thrilos 799 (3085)
    Seat 2: phillyfan19 (1540)
    Seat 5: Wraitor (1690)
    Seat 7: Hero (2510)
    Seat 9: chickenstick (4675)
    chickenstick: posts small blind 100
    thrilos 799: posts big blind 200
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero 3 A
    phillyfan19: folds
    Wraitor: folds
    Hero: raises 400 to 600
    chickenstick: folds
    thrilos 799: folds
    Uncalled bet (400) returned to Hero
    Hero collected 625

    5 2 CO (Hero's M = 9.70; f+F+f+c+s+b+c+b+c)
    5 Q BB (Hero's M = 4.81; f+f+r+F)
    3 Q SB (Hero's M = 4.10; f+r+F+c+b+f)
    6 5 Button (Hero's M = 3.73; f+F+f)
    3 9 CO (Hero's M = 3.68; F+[/color]c+f+s+s+b+f)
    Q 5 BB (Hero's M = 3.64; c+f+r+F+c)
    2 4 SB (Hero's M = 2.93; f+r+F+c)

    -----Hand 6-----
    Hero's M = 2.56
    PokerStars Game #33875544852: Tournament #202634439, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2009/10/10 23:18:31 CET [2009/10/10 17:18:31 ET]
    Table '202634439 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: thrilos 799 (4400)
    Seat 5: Wraitor (2910)
    Seat 7: Hero (1535)
    Seat 9: chickenstick (4655)
    chickenstick: posts small blind 200
    thrilos 799: posts big blind 400
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero 4 Q
    Wraitor: folds
    Hero: raises 1110 to 1510 and is all-in
    chickenstick: folds
    thrilos 799: folds
    Uncalled bet (1110) returned to Hero
    Hero collected 1100

    J T CO (Hero's M = 3.68; F+f+[/color]c+s+s+b+f)
    2 T BB (Hero's M = 3.64; f+f+r+F)
    K 2 SB (Hero's M = 2.93; r+f+F+f)

    -----Hand 7-----
    Hero's M = 2.56
    PokerStars Game #33875607963: Tournament #202634439, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2009/10/10 23:20:13 CET [2009/10/10 17:20:13 ET]
    Table '202634439 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: thrilos 799 (4200)
    Seat 5: Wraitor (3810)
    Seat 7: Hero (1535)
    Seat 9: chickenstick (3955)
    chickenstick: posts small blind 200
    thrilos 799: posts big blind 400
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero A 2
    Wraitor: folds
    Hero: raises 1110 to 1510 and is all-in
    chickenstick: folds
    thrilos 799: folds
    Uncalled bet (1110) returned to Hero
    Hero collected 1100

    7 K CO (Hero's M = 2.46; F+[/color]r+f+f)
    2 Q BB (Hero's M = 2.40; c+f+f+S+S+b+F)

    -----Hand 8-----
    Hero's M = 1.68
    PokerStars Game #33875657320: Tournament #202634439, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2009/10/10 23:21:33 CET [2009/10/10 17:21:33 ET]
    Table '202634439 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: thrilos 799 (3375)
    Seat 5: Wraitor (2785)
    Seat 7: Hero (1510)
    Seat 9: chickenstick (5830)
    Hero: posts small blind 300
    chickenstick: posts big blind 600
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero 6 2
    thrilos 799: folds
    Wraitor: folds
    Hero: raises 860 to 1460 and is all-in
    chickenstick: folds
    Uncalled bet (860) returned to Hero
    Hero collected 1400

    7 K Button (Hero's M = 2.51; r+F+f+f)
    4 2 CO (Hero's M = 2.46; F+f+[/color]c+s+b+f)

    -----Hand 9-----
    Hero's M = 2.40
    PokerStars Game #33875709560: Tournament #202634439, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2009/10/10 23:22:56 CET [2009/10/10 17:22:56 ET]
    Table '202634439 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: thrilos 799 (3425)
    Seat 5: Wraitor (3135)
    Seat 7: Hero (2160)
    Seat 9: chickenstick (4780)
    Wraitor: posts small blind 300
    Hero: posts big blind 600
    Preflop
    Dealt to Hero K A
    chickenstick: calls 600
    thrilos 799: folds
    Wraitor: folds
    Hero: raises 1510 to 2110 and is all-in
    chickenstick: calls 1510
    Flop: 5 2 7
    Turn: 3
    River: Q
    Showdown
    Hero: shows K A (high card Ace)
    chickenstick: shows A 8 (a flush, Ace high)
    chickenstick collected 4720
  2. #2

    Default Re: trimmed tournament (6.50 turbo) - review please

    Quote Originally Posted by whooosh
    (eg. the 7 K beetween hand 8 and 9)
    I think you can't call this even if the villain pushes 100% hands here.
    It is an interesting spot anyway, I wonder what would you push next hand on the UTG, is it right to push ATC (asking to all)?
    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe" (Albert Einstein)
  3. #3
    1. AA - I understand what you mean about being called by worse hands, but I really think that you lost a lot of value by shoving rather than standard raising. Think about the % of hands that would call an open shove compared to those that would call a standard raise. Your standard $6.50 player may call a standard raise with hands like KJo and QTs but they won't call a shove unless they're very bad indeed.

    A 9 BB (Hero's M = 34.00; f+f+f+f+f+f+r+f+F) (between 1 and 2) - depending on the size of the raise I'd consider calling and seeing a flop here, but folding is fine too

    4. A8o - I'd probably reshove if I wanted to play this provided I had a read that UTG wasn't a limp/re-raiser. Guess calling is OK though

    5. A3o - 500 is better than 600, keeps the pot a bit smaller

    7 K CO (Hero's M = 2.46; F+[/color]r+f+f) (between 7 and 8) - I haven't run it in SNG Wiz but I suspect this one could be a shove

    7hKh between 8 and 9 - I wouldn't shove over this, you have no FE and there's always the chance that the blinds will call and somebody will bust out

    Other than this, it's fine, looks like you're not too rusty. Only hand I really didn't like was the AA hand.
  4. #4
    thank you for your feedback.

    and i misread the K7 hand: i didn't notice the raise before me.

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