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  1. #1

    Default flop play?

    1st hand of tourny so no reads
    except its 5 way to the flop

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 2.2 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button (t1500)
    SB (t1500)
    BB (t1500)
    UTG (t1500)
    UTG+1 (t1500)
    MP1 (t1500)
    Hero (MP2) (t1500)
    MP3 (t1500)
    CO (t1500)

    Hero's M: 50.00

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, Q
    2 folds, MP1 calls t20, Hero bets t100, 1 fold, CO calls t100, 1 fold, SB calls t90, BB calls t80, MP1 calls t80

    Flop: (t500) Q, J, A (5 players)
    SB bets t220, 1 fold, MP1 calls t220, ???
  2. #2
    I'd just shove because any reasonable raise is pot committing anyway. IMO the only debate about this hand should be between raising to ~700 and shoving
  3. #3
    yeah just get it in, a lot of cards can come that will kill action from Ax or two pair and I doubt someone will call 600-800 that would fold to a shove.
  4. #4
    standard shove, no one is folding Ax or flush draw on the flop.
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
  5. #5
    being 5 way can KT ever be enough of a concearn to make this a fold?
    1st hand of tourny with only $100 invested

    i almost timed out, feeling the KT was out there
    but i couldnt make a hero fold

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 2.2 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button (t1500)
    SB (t1500)
    BB (t1500)
    UTG (t1500)
    UTG+1 (t1500)
    MP1 (t1500)
    Hero (MP2) (t1500)
    MP3 (t1500)
    CO (t1500)

    Hero's M: 50.00

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, Q
    2 folds, MP1 calls t20, Hero bets t100, 1 fold, CO calls t100, 1 fold, SB calls t90, BB calls t80, MP1 calls t80

    Flop: (t500) Q, J, A (5 players)
    SB bets t220, 1 fold, MP1 calls t220, Hero raises to t1400 (All-In), 1 fold, SB calls t1180 (All-In), MP1 calls t1180 (All-In)

    Turn: (t4700) 3 (3 players, 3 all-in)

    River: (t4700) 3 (3 players, 3 all-in)

    Total pot: t4700

    Results:
    SB had Q, J (two pair, Queens and Jacks).
    MP1 had K, 10 (straight, Ace high).
    Hero had Q, Q (full house, Queens over threes).
    Outcome: Hero won t4700

    maybe just being results driven (he had KT)
    but felt i would be losing alot of value from my big hands if i folded to excalty KT...
  6. #6
    no

    put villains on a range of hands that could bet or call a big bet on this flop. QQ crushes that range. where exactly do you think you can fold?
  7. #7
    Its not like your drawing dead vs KT, your 36%
  8. #8
    thanks for the replies guys,
    was thinking i played it right ,but being 5 way wasnt sure
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by baudib
    no

    put villains on a range of hands that could bet or call a big bet on this flop. QQ crushes that range. where exactly do you think you can fold?
    fold to flop bet by sb,
    HU or 2 callers this is a snap shove
  10. #10
    folding 3rd nuts to a flop bet is bad.
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
  11. #11
    Do you have pokerstove installed in your computer? If not, you should get it asap. It is free.
  12. #12
    Board: As Js Qd
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 68.677% 68.04% 00.64% 42437 397.00 { QcQh }
    Hand 1: 31.323% 30.69% 00.64% 19139 397.00 { AA, JJ, ATs+, KsQs, KTs, QJs, QsTs, ATo+, KTo, QJo }
    Playing big pots at small stakes.

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