Weird hand versus 2 big stacks ($6.50)

[Nakamura]

Villain here is a fish running at 48/18 over 83 hands.

I think my flop bet here is probably a little large, 600 -700 is probably enough. Do you value bet the turn here or slow down?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 6.5 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB (t4355)
UTG (t1620)
MP (t1375)
Button (t1275)
Hero (SB) (t4875)

Hero's M: 16.25

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, A
3 folds, Hero bets t600, BB calls t400

Flop: (t1200) 7, K, 7 (2 players)
Hero bets t800, BB calls t800

Turn: (t2800) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets t1800, BB calls t1800

River: (t6400) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets t1675 (All-In), BB calls t1155 (All-In)

Total pot: t8710

[rong]

I don't like the way this panned out at all. Mostly because I have no idea what villain has. I don't put a 7 in his range, unless you have been steeling his big blind a lot and A7s or maybe 78s are in his calling range, but surely if he was going to play these he would raise pre.

[Extremophile]

Dan I guess you missed his stats. He might have ATC imo.

Obviously, it sucks there are 3 short stacks. I think we have to get it in this way or that way. I'd probably check-raise AI on the turn because we won't have any FE once the villian bets. If he checks the turn behind, checking the river must be +$EV even though it is -cEV.

[drmcboy]

yeah I can see why you feel oogy about it but I think this is good. I might bet less on turn and flop like you said but money goes in on river anyway. he's never folding a worse K and may even call down with a PP.

[rong]

Dan I guess you missed his stats. He might have ATC imo.

Hence the having no idea what he has. And calling all the way with all his chips ending up in the iddle leaves me worried. But I don't see the alternative here, maybe c/c the turn and river, but I don't like that either. Maybe shove the turn, but again I don't se what this acheives. It just seems a shame to end up all in with the other big stack with only top pair.

[taipan168]

I make it 500 to go preflop, makes a c-bet on a missed flop less expensive.

Other than that it's fine, all the money is going to go in the middle regardless and whether you put a little less on the flop and turn and a little more on the river doesn't really make much difference IMO.

[baudib]

I usually check this flop unless villain is totally passive but obviously as played it's fine. I mean I suppose he could have a 7 but he's totally paying off with any K and smaller pairs.

[rong]

Just to clarify, you all seem to think that TPTK is enough to get all your chips in, when you and the only other bigstack are HU in a hand with a paired board?

I think I check the turn onwards, and hope villain is thinking about conserving his stack too.

[Nakamura]

Just to clarify, you all seem to think that TPTK is enough to get all your chips in, when you and the only other bigstack are HU in a hand with a paired board?

I think I check the turn onwards, and hope villain is thinking about conserving his stack too.

Dan, having thought a bit about this hand I think checking the turn is bad against a loose-passive player. If he has a 7, we are paying him off anyway on the turn and river. We fail to extract any further value from worse KX's in his calling range, since he's almost never betting a worse K if we check to him, but he will likely call with a worse K.

Checking the flop might be an option though, but I think I still bet to extract value from worse K's.