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  1. #1

    Default Bottom two pair on flop, relatively deep stacks ($27)

    Can't remember stats, but almost regardless there's no other move than to shove over here, right?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 27 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP2 (t1220)
    CO (t647)
    Button (t2878)
    SB (t2575)
    Hero (BB) (t3010)
    UTG (t1264)
    MP1 (t1906)

    Hero's M: 20.07

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, K
    4 folds, Button calls t100, SB calls t50, Hero checks

    Flop: (t300) 9, A, K (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets t250, Button raises to t500, 1 fold, Hero raises to t2910 (All-In)
  2. #2
    If he limped in with AA,KK,99,AK,A9, well done. I am also assuming he will ship AQ,AJ,AT here against our wide range on the BB. He will also push with QsJs,JsTs,QsTs,Qs9s,Ts9s.

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 51.755% 51.75% 00.01% 29713 4.50 { Kd9c }
    Hand 1: 48.245% 48.24% 00.01% 27698 4.50 { KK+, 99, A9s+, QsJs, QsTs, Qs9s, JsTs, Ts9s, A9o+ }

    It depends on your will to gamble for the rest of your chips against these guys.
  3. #3
    That's way too tight a range for a random button open-limper. The min raise can easily be something like a KQ that "raises for information" or something even worse.

    I'd be totally happy to get it in here. You get called by a lot of flush draws and depending on opponent just about any A x hand.
  4. #4
    Any reads ?

    I dont think the shove over is bad, the other play is to call it and shove on a relatively harmless card. I think is most likely hand is something like QJ/QT/JT with 1 or 2 spades


  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by losttrem
    That's way too tight a range for a random button open-limper. The min raise can easily be something like a KQ that "raises for information" or something even worse.

    I'd be totally happy to get it in here. You get called by a lot of flush draws and depending on opponent just about any A x hand.
    Yes, the range might be too tight. What range do you put him on?

    Sometimes, the minraise on the flop also means a draw but, I usually think an unknown villian a TAGG instead of a LAGG. Since, we have no reads on the villian, I assumed he is a TAGG considering the relatively high BI.
  6. #6
    He's got a lot of balls if he's min-raising with 99 or A9 on that flop. It's probably more likely he has some kind of draw or has hit TP and is donk betting the flop.

    On the other hand, I'm pushing over a lot in these spots and being shown the nuts a lot more often than used to be the case. My guess is that donks are picking up this play from seeing other donks using the play, particularly against TAGGS who frequently stack off to these bets. The thing is, they seem to min-bet without regard for flop texture.

    Anyway, this is long-winded way of saying I would probably stack off here, but a decent proportion of the time the villain is pitching up with something stupid like A9 or 99 here.

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