$4.40-180 man - Final Table for Review

[Extremophile]

My main problem at this final table was not being able to c-bet towards the end of the tournament. I was short and didn't catch any real hands to shove pre. Especially when it is 3 and 4-handed, the big stack turned into a calling station and it was really hard to play. Comments?

---Tournament Summary---
MTT: Finished 3/180, payout unknown
Data for 140 hands.
You played 37 hands (26.43%)
You raised 28 times preflop (20%)

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6 3 BB (Hero's M = 19.00; f+f+f+r+f+f+F+c+s+b+f)
5 T Button (Hero's M = 18.60; f+f+f+f+f+f+F+f)

-----Hand 1-----
Hero's M = 18.53
PokerStars Game #35842765005: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2009/11/25 22:33:19 EET [2009/11/25 15:33:19 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (13366)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (32331)
Seat 3: KiMLi (37046)
Seat 4: bAm0404 (17850)
Seat 5: PrettyThings (15548)
Seat 6: Hero (27799)
Seat 7: RAMPINI200 (32666)
Seat 8: Andre+Jessi (53988)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (39406)
Andre+Jessi: posts small blind 500
TherodManiac: posts big blind 1000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero 8 8
SithJ: folds
Garlinsky: folds
KiMLi: folds
bAm0404: folds
PrettyThings: folds
Hero: raises 1500 to 2500
RAMPINI200: folds
Andre+Jessi: calls 2000
TherodManiac: folds
Flop: T 5 5
Andre+Jessi: checks
Hero: bets 4000
Andre+Jessi: folds
Uncalled bet (4000) returned to Hero
Hero collected 6900

7 4 MP (Hero's M = 21.40; f+f+f+f+F+f+f+r+f)
6 9 MP2 (Hero's M = 21.33; f+f+f+F+c+f+f+c+r+c+f+b+f)
J 6 UTG+2 (Hero's M = 17.72; f+f+F+f+f+f+f+c+s+b+c+b+f)
9 7 UTG+1 (Hero's M = 17.65; f+F+c+f+r+f+f+f+f+c+f)
K 6 UTG (Hero's M = 17.58; F+[/color]c+f+c+f+f+f+c+s+s+s+s+b+f+f+c+s+b+c+s+b+c)
3 6 BB (Hero's M = 17.51; f+f+f+r+f+f+f+f+F)
5 J SB (Hero's M = 16.78; f+f+f+r+f+f+f+F+f)
J 2 Button (Hero's M = 16.37; c+f+f+f+f+f+F+f+s+s+s+s+s+b+f)

-----Hand 2-----
Hero's M = 16.30
PokerStars Game #35843123938: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (600/1200) - 2009/11/25 22:40:40 EET [2009/11/25 15:40:40 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (13241)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (43130)
Seat 3: KiMLi (32996)
Seat 4: bAm0404 (14400)
Seat 5: PrettyThings (12698)
Seat 6: Hero (29349)
Seat 7: RAMPINI200 (10717)
Seat 8: Andre+Jessi (53363)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (60106)
Andre+Jessi: posts small blind 600
TherodManiac: posts big blind 1200
Preflop
Dealt to Hero A K
SithJ: folds
Garlinsky: folds
KiMLi: folds
bAm0404: folds
PrettyThings: folds
Hero: raises 1900 to 3100
RAMPINI200: folds
Andre+Jessi: folds
TherodManiac: folds
Uncalled bet (1900) returned to Hero
Hero collected 4125

J 6 MP (Hero's M = 17.86; f+f+f+f+F+f+f+f)
6 8 MP2 (Hero's M = 17.79; f+f+f+F+f+r+c+f+f+s+s+b+c+b+c)
8 7 UTG+2 (Hero's M = 17.72; r+f+F+f+f+f+f+f+f)
A 5 UTG+1 (Hero's M = 17.65; f+F+f+f+f+r+f+f+f)
9 T UTG (Hero's M = 17.58; F+[/color]c+f+f+f+f+f+c+s+s+s+b+c+f+b+c)

-----Hand 3-----
Hero's M = 17.51
PokerStars Game #35843281268: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (600/1200) - 2009/11/25 22:43:51 EET [2009/11/25 15:43:51 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (16541)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (40580)
Seat 3: KiMLi (30446)
Seat 4: bAm0404 (27667)
Seat 5: PrettyThings (10748)
Seat 6: Hero (31524)
Seat 8: Andre+Jessi (44813)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (67681)
PrettyThings: posts small blind 600
Hero: posts big blind 1200
Preflop
Dealt to Hero J J
Andre+Jessi: folds
TherodManiac: calls 1200
SithJ: folds
Garlinsky: calls 1200
KiMLi: folds
bAm0404: folds
PrettyThings: folds
Hero: raises 4800 to 6000
TherodManiac: folds
Garlinsky: folds
Uncalled bet (4800) returned to Hero
Hero collected 5200

4 3 SB (Hero's M = 19.67; f+f+f+r+f+f+F+f)
J 9 Button (Hero's M = 19.26; f+f+f+f+r+F+f+f)
3 8 CO (Hero's M = 19.19; f+f+f+f+F+f+f)
4 A MP (Hero's M = 19.12; f+r+r+F+f+c+f+f+f)
6 K UTG+1 (Hero's M = 19.05; f+F+f+f+c+c+s+b+f+f)
Q 9 UTG (Hero's M = 18.99; F+f+f+f+f+[/color]c+s+b+f)

-----Hand 4-----
Hero's M = 18.92
PokerStars Game #35843453980: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (600/1200) - 2009/11/25 22:47:25 EET [2009/11/25 15:47:25 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (15466)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (40580)
Seat 3: KiMLi (33246)
Seat 4: bAm0404 (22259)
Seat 6: Hero (34049)
Seat 8: Andre+Jessi (42138)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (82262)
bAm0404: posts small blind 600
Hero: posts big blind 1200
Preflop
Dealt to Hero T 8
Andre+Jessi: folds
TherodManiac: calls 1200
SithJ: folds
Garlinsky: folds
KiMLi: folds
bAm0404: calls 600
Hero: checks
Flop: 9 T 6
bAm0404: checks
Hero: checks
TherodManiac: bets 3600
bAm0404: folds
Hero: calls 3600
Turn: 5
Hero: checks
TherodManiac: bets 3600
Hero: calls 3600
River: 3
Hero: checks
TherodManiac: checks
Showdown
Hero: shows T 8 (a pair of Tens)
Hero collected 18875
TherodManiac: mucked A 9

2 5 SB (Hero's M = 24.67; f+f+f+r+f+F+f)
7 T Button (Hero's M = 24.26; f+f+f+r+F+f+f)
K T CO (Hero's M = 24.19; f+f+f+F+f+c+r+f)
8 T MP (Hero's M = 24.12; f+f+F+f+f+f)
3 4 UTG+1 (Hero's M = 24.05; f+F+f+c+c+c+r+f+f+f)
J T UTG (Hero's M = 23.99; F+f+f+f+f+f[/color])
7 T BB (Hero's M = 23.92; f+c+f+f+f+f+S+S+s+S+b+F)
9 5 SB (Hero's M = 17.39; r+f+f+f+f+F+f)
8 K Button (Hero's M = 16.99; f+f+f+f+F+c+s+s+b+f)
A 6 CO (Hero's M = 16.93; f+f+f+F+f+f)
A 9 MP (Hero's M = 16.86; f+f+F+r+f+f+f)
A 5 UTG+1 (Hero's M = 16.80; f+F+c+f+f+f+s+s+b+f)
8 K UTG (Hero's M = 16.74; F+[/color]r+f+f+f+f+f)

-----Hand 5-----
Hero's M = 16.68
PokerStars Game #35843723525: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (800/1600) - 2009/11/25 22:52:58 EET [2009/11/25 15:52:58 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (14891)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (36555)
Seat 3: KiMLi (35496)
Seat 4: bAm0404 (21109)
Seat 6: Hero (40024)
Seat 8: Andre+Jessi (45588)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (76337)
bAm0404: posts small blind 800
Hero: posts big blind 1600
Preflop
Dealt to Hero A Q
Andre+Jessi: folds
TherodManiac: calls 1600
SithJ: folds
Garlinsky: folds
KiMLi: folds
bAm0404: calls 800
Hero: raises 4400 to 6000
TherodManiac: calls 4400
bAm0404: folds
Flop: 9 5 3
Hero: bets 9000
TherodManiac: folds
Uncalled bet (9000) returned to Hero
Hero collected 14650

T T SB (Hero's M = 20.22; r+f+f+f+f+F+f)
9 6 Button (Hero's M = 19.82; f+f+r+f+F+f+f)
7 3 CO (Hero's M = 19.76; f+f+f+F+f+f)
7 K MP (Hero's M = 19.70; f+f+F+f+c+f+s+s+s+b+f)
4 9 UTG+1 (Hero's M = 19.64; f+F+f+f+r+f+f)
9 J UTG (Hero's M = 19.57; F+f+f+f+[/color]r+f+f)
8 4 BB (Hero's M = 19.51; f+f+f+f+r+f+F)
9 8 SB (Hero's M = 18.78; f+f+f+f+f+F)
8 7 Button (Hero's M = 18.39; f+f+f+f+F+r+f)
9 Q CO (Hero's M = 18.32; f+f+f+F+f+f)
7 J MP (Hero's M = 18.26; f+f+F+c+f+c+r+f+f)

-----Hand 6-----
Hero's M = 18.20
PokerStars Game #35844113252: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (800/1600) - 2009/11/25 23:02:29 EET [2009/11/25 16:02:29 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (17841)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (45105)
Seat 3: KiMLi (38196)
Seat 4: bAm0404 (15309)
Seat 6: Hero (43674)
Seat 8: Andre+Jessi (44288)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (65587)
Garlinsky: posts small blind 800
KiMLi: posts big blind 1600
Preflop
Dealt to Hero 8 8
bAm0404: folds
Hero: raises 2100 to 3700
Andre+Jessi: folds
TherodManiac: folds
SithJ: raises 13991 to 17691 and is all-in
Garlinsky: folds
KiMLi: folds
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet (13991) returned to SithJ
SithJ collected 10850

4 6 UTG (Hero's M = 16.59; F+f+f+[/color]c+f+c+s+s+s+s+s+b+c+c+s+s+b+c+f)
5 7 BB (Hero's M = 16.53; f+f+f+f+r+r+F+c)

-----Hand 7-----
Hero's M = 15.80
PokerStars Game #35844236617: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (800/1600) - 2009/11/25 23:04:50 EET [2009/11/25 16:04:50 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (35191)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (43855)
Seat 3: KiMLi (18087)
Seat 4: bAm0404 (25968)
Seat 6: Hero (37924)
Seat 8: Andre+Jessi (43838)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (65137)
Hero: posts small blind 800
Andre+Jessi: posts big blind 1600
Preflop
Dealt to Hero Q 8
TherodManiac: folds
SithJ: folds
Garlinsky: folds
KiMLi: folds
bAm0404: folds
Hero: raises 2000 to 3600
Andre+Jessi: calls 2000
Flop: 2 9 2
Hero: bets 6500
Andre+Jessi: folds
Uncalled bet (6500) returned to Hero
Hero collected 8250

8 K Button (Hero's M = 17.68; f+f+r+f+F+f+f)

-----Hand 8-----
Hero's M = 17.61
PokerStars Game #35844278793: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (800/1600) - 2009/11/25 23:05:38 EET [2009/11/25 16:05:38 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (34891)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (43555)
Seat 3: KiMLi (21237)
Seat 4: bAm0404 (25668)
Seat 6: Hero (42274)
Seat 8: Andre+Jessi (39138)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (63237)
TherodManiac: posts small blind 800
SithJ: posts big blind 1600
Preflop
Dealt to Hero A 7
Garlinsky: folds
KiMLi: folds
bAm0404: folds
Hero: raises 2000 to 3600
Andre+Jessi: folds
TherodManiac: folds
SithJ: calls 2000
Flop: A 6 7
SithJ: checks
Hero: bets 7500
SithJ: calls 7500
Turn: 9
SithJ: checks
Hero: checks
River: Q
SithJ: bets 6400
Hero: calls 6400
Showdown
SithJ: shows A Q (two pair, Aces and Queens)
SithJ collected 36850
Hero: mucked A 7

Q 6 MP (Hero's M = 10.26; f+f+F+r+f+f+f)
3 6 UTG+1 (Hero's M = 10.20; f+F+c+f+f+c+s+b+f+c+b+c+b+f)
4 A UTG (Hero's M = 10.13; F+f+f+[/color]c+f+f+s+s+s+s+s+s+s)

-----Hand 9-----
Hero's M = 10.07
PokerStars Game #35844418967: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (800/1600) - 2009/11/25 23:08:21 EET [2009/11/25 16:08:21 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (56291)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (50405)
Seat 3: KiMLi (18237)
Seat 4: bAm0404 (23468)
Seat 6: Hero (24174)
Seat 8: Andre+Jessi (35588)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (61837)
bAm0404: posts small blind 800
Hero: posts big blind 1600
Preflop
Dealt to Hero 8 8
Andre+Jessi: folds
TherodManiac: folds
SithJ: folds
Garlinsky: raises 2399 to 3999
KiMLi: folds
bAm0404: folds
Hero: raises 20025 to 24024 and is all-in
Garlinsky: folds
Uncalled bet (20025) returned to Hero
Hero collected 9848

9 7 SB (Hero's M = 12.45; f+f+f+f+r+F+f)
T 5 Button (Hero's M = 12.05; r+f+c+c+F+c+c+s+s+s+b+f+f+c+f)
7 8 CO (Hero's M = 11.99; f+f+F+f+c+s+s+b+f)
9 8 MP (Hero's M = 11.93; f+F+c+c+c+s+s+s+b+f+c+f+s+b+c+s+s)
K 9 UTG (Hero's M = 9.49; F+f+[/color]r+c+c+c+s+s+b+r+f+f+c+b+r+c+s+b+c)
Q 3 BB (Hero's M = 9.42; f+f+f+f+r+F)

-----Hand 10-----
Hero's M = 8.69
PokerStars Game #35844616561: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1000/2000) - 2009/11/25 23:12:15 EET [2009/11/25 16:12:15 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (88841)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (39656)
Seat 4: bAm0404 (20968)
Seat 6: Hero (26073)
Seat 8: Andre+Jessi (38538)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (55924)
Hero: posts small blind 1000
Andre+Jessi: posts big blind 2000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero A T
TherodManiac: calls 2000
SithJ: folds
Garlinsky: folds
bAm0404: folds
Hero: raises 23873 to 25873 and is all-in
Andre+Jessi: folds
TherodManiac: folds
Uncalled bet (23873) returned to Hero
Hero collected 7200

9 2 Button (Hero's M = 10.36; f+f+f+F+c+s+s+b+f)
K 6 CO (Hero's M = 10.29; f+f+F+f+f)
3 K MP (Hero's M = 10.22; f+F+f+f+f)
4 J UTG (Hero's M = 10.16; F+f+f+f+[/color]r+f)

-----Hand 11-----
Hero's M = 10.09
PokerStars Game #35844702148: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1000/2000) - 2009/11/25 23:13:58 EET [2009/11/25 16:13:58 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (89041)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (44056)
Seat 4: bAm0404 (17968)
Seat 6: Hero (30273)
Seat 8: Andre+Jessi (33538)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (55124)
bAm0404: posts small blind 1000
Hero: posts big blind 2000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero A Q
Andre+Jessi: raises 2000 to 4000
TherodManiac: folds
SithJ: folds
Garlinsky: folds
bAm0404: folds
Hero: calls 2000
Flop: K J 2
Hero: checks
Andre+Jessi: bets 6000
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet (6000) returned to Andre+Jessi
Andre+Jessi collected 10200

-----Hand 12-----
Hero's M = 8.69
PokerStars Game #35844727141: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1000/2000) - 2009/11/25 23:14:28 EET [2009/11/25 16:14:28 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (88841)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (43856)
Seat 4: bAm0404 (16768)
Seat 6: Hero (26073)
Seat 8: Andre+Jessi (39538)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (54924)
Hero: posts small blind 1000
Andre+Jessi: posts big blind 2000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero 8 5
TherodManiac: folds
SithJ: folds
Garlinsky: folds
bAm0404: folds
Hero: raises 23873 to 25873 and is all-in
Andre+Jessi: folds
Uncalled bet (23873) returned to Hero
Hero collected 5200

9 2 Button (Hero's M = 9.69; f+f+f+F+r+c+b+c+b+c+b+c)

-----Hand 13-----
Hero's M = 9.62
PokerStars Game #35844768610: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1000/2000) - 2009/11/25 23:15:19 EET [2009/11/25 16:15:19 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (88441)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (43456)
Seat 4: bAm0404 (16368)
Seat 6: Hero (28873)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (92862)
SithJ: posts small blind 1000
Garlinsky: posts big blind 2000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero Q J
bAm0404: folds
Hero: raises 2500 to 4500
TherodManiac: calls 4500
SithJ: calls 3500
Garlinsky: folds
Flop: 9 8 2
SithJ: checks
Hero: checks
TherodManiac: checks
Turn: 3
SithJ: checks
Hero: checks
TherodManiac: checks
River: 5
SithJ: checks
Hero: checks
TherodManiac: checks
Showdown
SithJ: shows J Q (high card Queen)
Hero: shows Q J (high card Queen)
TherodManiac: shows A T (high card Ace)
TherodManiac collected 16500

6 J UTG (Hero's M = 8.06; F+[/color]r+c+r+f+f+f)
2 2 BB (Hero's M = 7.99; c+f+f+r+F+c)

-----Hand 14-----
Hero's M = 7.26
PokerStars Game #35844850986: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1000/2000) - 2009/11/25 23:17:01 EET [2009/11/25 16:17:01 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (79341)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (51856)
Seat 6: Hero (21773)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (117030)
TherodManiac: posts small blind 1000
SithJ: posts big blind 2000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero K J
Garlinsky: folds
Hero: raises 2500 to 4500
TherodManiac: calls 3500
SithJ: folds
Flop: 4 2 3
TherodManiac: checks
Hero: checks
Turn: 9
TherodManiac: bets 4000
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet (4000) returned to TherodManiac
TherodManiac collected 11800

7 3 CO (Hero's M = 5.69; F+[/color]c+c+s+s+s+s+s+s+s+s+b+f+f)

-----Hand 15-----
Hero's M = 5.62
PokerStars Game #35844911946: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1000/2000) - 2009/11/25 23:18:15 EET [2009/11/25 16:18:15 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (74941)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (56256)
Seat 6: Hero (16873)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (121930)
Garlinsky: posts small blind 1000
Hero: posts big blind 2000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero A 9
TherodManiac: calls 2000
SithJ: folds
Garlinsky: calls 1000
Hero: raises 14673 to 16673 and is all-in
TherodManiac: calls 14673
Garlinsky: folds
Flop: T 3 J
Turn: A
River: 6
Showdown
Hero: shows A 9 (a pair of Aces)
TherodManiac: shows 2 A (a pair of Aces - lower kicker)
Hero collected 36146

-----Hand 16-----
Hero's M = 12.05
PokerStars Game #35844938283: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1000/2000) - 2009/11/25 23:18:48 EET [2009/11/25 16:18:48 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (74741)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (54056)
Seat 6: Hero (36146)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (105057)
Hero: posts small blind 1000
TherodManiac: posts big blind 2000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero A 8
SithJ: calls 2000
Garlinsky: folds
Hero: calls 1000
TherodManiac: checks
Flop: 3 T 6
Hero: checks
TherodManiac: bets 4000
SithJ: folds
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet (4000) returned to TherodManiac
TherodManiac collected 6800

3 6 Button (Hero's M = 11.32; f+F+c+s+s+s+s+s+s+s)
2 K CO (Hero's M = 11.25; F+[/color]c+r+f+c+s+s+s+s+b+f)
9 3 BB (Hero's M = 11.18; c+f+c+S+s+S+s+b+F+c+s+s)

-----Hand 17-----
Hero's M = 10.45
PokerStars Game #35845032876: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1000/2000) - 2009/11/25 23:20:41 EET [2009/11/25 16:20:41 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (78741)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (60056)
Seat 6: Hero (31346)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (99857)
Hero: posts small blind 1000
TherodManiac: posts big blind 2000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero J T
SithJ: folds
Garlinsky: folds
Hero: raises 2000 to 4000
TherodManiac: calls 2000
Flop: 5 7 A
Hero: checks
TherodManiac: checks
Turn: 2
Hero: checks
TherodManiac: checks
River: Q
Hero: bets 6000
TherodManiac: calls 6000
Showdown
Hero: shows J T (high card Ace)
TherodManiac: shows Q K (a pair of Queens)
TherodManiac collected 20800

-----Hand 18-----
Hero's M = 7.05
PokerStars Game #35845060933: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1000/2000) - 2009/11/25 23:21:15 EET [2009/11/25 16:21:15 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (78541)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (59856)
Seat 6: Hero (21146)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (110457)
TherodManiac: posts small blind 1000
SithJ: posts big blind 2000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero 7 A
Garlinsky: folds
Hero: raises 4000 to 6000
TherodManiac: raises 4000 to 10000
SithJ: folds
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet (4000) returned to TherodManiac
TherodManiac collected 14800

-----Hand 19-----
Hero's M = 4.98
PokerStars Game #35845092525: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1000/2000) - 2009/11/25 23:21:53 EET [2009/11/25 16:21:53 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (76341)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (59656)
Seat 6: Hero (14946)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (119057)
SithJ: posts small blind 1000
Garlinsky: posts big blind 2000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero Q K
Hero: raises 12746 to 14746 and is all-in
TherodManiac: calls 14746
SithJ: folds
Garlinsky: raises 44710 to 59456 and is all-in
TherodManiac: folds
Uncalled bet (44710) returned to Garlinsky
Flop: 9 4 5
Turn: 4
River: J
Showdown
Garlinsky: shows K K (two pair, Kings and Fours)
Hero: shows Q K (a flush, King high)
Hero collected 46038

-----Hand 20-----
Hero's M = 15.35
PokerStars Game #35845118062: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1000/2000) - 2009/11/25 23:22:24 EET [2009/11/25 16:22:24 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (75141)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (44710)
Seat 6: Hero (46038)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (104111)
Garlinsky: posts small blind 1000
Hero: posts big blind 2000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero 3 A
TherodManiac: folds
SithJ: folds
Garlinsky: calls 1000
Hero: raises 4000 to 6000
Garlinsky: raises 38510 to 44510 and is all-in
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet (38510) returned to Garlinsky
Garlinsky collected 12800

4 7 SB (Hero's M = 13.28; f+f+F)
3 K Button (Hero's M = 12.88; f+F+c+s+s+b+c+s+b+c+s+s)

-----Hand 21-----
Hero's M = 12.81
PokerStars Game #35845171241: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1000/2000) - 2009/11/25 23:23:29 EET [2009/11/25 16:23:29 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (68541)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (50910)
Seat 6: Hero (38438)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (112111)
SithJ: posts small blind 1000
Garlinsky: posts big blind 2000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero J K
Hero: raises 3000 to 5000
TherodManiac: calls 5000
SithJ: calls 4000
Garlinsky: raises 45710 to 50710 and is all-in
Hero: folds
TherodManiac: folds
SithJ: folds
Uncalled bet (45710) returned to Garlinsky
Garlinsky collected 20800

8 J BB (Hero's M = 11.08; f+f+f)
3 J SB (Hero's M = 11.61; f+f+F)
3 Q Button (Hero's M = 11.21; f+F+c+s+s+s+s+s+s+s)
3 7 CO (Hero's M = 11.15; F+[/color]c+c+s+s+b+c+f+s+s+s+b+f)

-----Hand 22-----
Hero's M = 7.39
PokerStars Game #35845286871: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2009/11/25 23:25:53 EET [2009/11/25 16:25:53 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (63341)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (58710)
Seat 6: Hero (33238)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (114711)
Garlinsky: posts small blind 1500
Hero: posts big blind 3000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero 8 J
TherodManiac: calls 3000
SithJ: folds
Garlinsky: calls 1500
Hero: checks
Flop: 5 2 5
Garlinsky: checks
Hero: checks
TherodManiac: checks
Turn: 4
Garlinsky: checks
Hero: bets 6000
TherodManiac: calls 6000
Garlinsky: folds
River: 6
Hero: bets 8000
TherodManiac: calls 8000
Showdown
Hero: shows 8 J (a pair of Fives)
TherodManiac: shows Q Q (two pair, Queens and Fives)
TherodManiac collected 38200

2 K SB (Hero's M = 3.54; c+f+F+s+s+s+s+b+c+s+s)
3 2 Button (Hero's M = 3.14; f+F+r+f)

-----Hand 23-----
Hero's M = 3.08
PokerStars Game #35845358440: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2009/11/25 23:27:21 EET [2009/11/25 16:27:21 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (53441)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (54810)
Seat 6: Hero (13838)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (147911)
SithJ: posts small blind 1500
Garlinsky: posts big blind 3000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero 8 A
Hero: raises 10538 to 13538 and is all-in
TherodManiac: folds
SithJ: raises 39603 to 53141 and is all-in
Garlinsky: folds
Uncalled bet (39603) returned to SithJ
Flop: 9 6 9
Turn: 6
River: 8
Showdown
SithJ: shows 3 3 (two pair, Nines and Sixes)
Hero: shows 8 A (two pair, Nines and Eights)
Hero collected 31276

2 7 BB (Hero's M = 6.95; f+c+c+S+s+S+b+f+F)

-----Hand 24-----
Hero's M = 6.22
PokerStars Game #35845397535: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2009/11/25 23:28:10 EET [2009/11/25 16:28:10 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (46503)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (48210)
Seat 6: Hero (27976)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (147311)
Hero: posts small blind 1500
TherodManiac: posts big blind 3000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero 8 8
SithJ: folds
Garlinsky: folds
Hero: raises 24676 to 27676 and is all-in
TherodManiac: folds
Uncalled bet (24676) returned to Hero
Hero collected 7200

4 4 Button (Hero's M = 7.08; r+F+f+r+f)
5 J CO (Hero's M = 7.02; F+f+f[/color])

-----Hand 25-----
Hero's M = 6.95
PokerStars Game #35845437786: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2009/11/25 23:29:00 EET [2009/11/25 16:29:00 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (53802)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (43011)
Seat 6: Hero (31276)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (141911)
Garlinsky: posts small blind 1500
Hero: posts big blind 3000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero J 9
TherodManiac: folds
SithJ: calls 3000
Garlinsky: calls 1500
Hero: checks
Flop: J 5 6
Garlinsky: bets 3000
Hero: raises 6000 to 9000
SithJ: folds
Garlinsky: folds
Uncalled bet (6000) returned to Hero
Hero collected 16200

8 7 SB (Hero's M = 9.15; f+f+F)
K 2 Button (Hero's M = 8.75; f+F+r+c+s+s+s+b+f)
8 J CO (Hero's M = 8.68; F+f+[/color]c+s+s+b+c+s+b+f)
T 3 BB (Hero's M = 8.62; f+f+c+S+s+S+b+F)

-----Hand 26-----
Hero's M = 7.88
PokerStars Game #35845559742: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2009/11/25 23:31:34 EET [2009/11/25 16:31:34 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (50502)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (46911)
Seat 6: Hero (35476)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (137111)
Hero: posts small blind 1500
TherodManiac: posts big blind 3000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero T J
SithJ: calls 3000
Garlinsky: folds
Hero: calls 1500
TherodManiac: checks
Flop: 9 9 J
Hero: bets 7000
TherodManiac: calls 7000
SithJ: folds
Turn: 2
Hero: checks
TherodManiac: checks
River: 6
Hero: checks
TherodManiac: bets 12000
Hero: calls 12000
Showdown
TherodManiac: shows 3 9 (three of a kind, Nines)
TherodManiac collected 48200
Extremophile (small blind): mucked T J

[Extremophile]

-----Hand 27-----
Hero's M = 2.93
PokerStars Game #35845592257: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2009/11/25 23:32:15 EET [2009/11/25 16:32:15 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (47202)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (46611)
Seat 6: Hero (13176)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (163011)
TherodManiac: posts small blind 1500
SithJ: posts big blind 3000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero T K
Garlinsky: folds
Hero: raises 9876 to 12876 and is all-in
TherodManiac: folds
SithJ: calls 9876
Flop: 3 A 8
Turn: 5
River: T
Showdown
SithJ: shows Q J (high card Ace)
Hero: shows T K (a pair of Tens)
Hero collected 28452

2 J CO (Hero's M = 6.32; F+f+[/color]c+s+s+b+f)

-----Hand 28-----
Hero's M = 6.26
PokerStars Game #35845625914: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2009/11/25 23:32:58 EET [2009/11/25 16:32:58 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (30726)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (50211)
Seat 6: Hero (28152)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (160911)
Garlinsky: posts small blind 1500
Hero: posts big blind 3000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero 3 A
TherodManiac: calls 3000
SithJ: folds
Garlinsky: calls 1500
Hero: raises 24852 to 27852 and is all-in
TherodManiac: folds
Garlinsky: folds
Uncalled bet (24852) returned to Hero
Hero collected 10200

6 8 SB (Hero's M = 7.79; f+f+F)

-----Hand 29-----
Hero's M = 7.39
PokerStars Game #35845646133: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2009/11/25 23:33:23 EET [2009/11/25 16:33:23 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: SithJ (30126)
Seat 2: Garlinsky (46611)
Seat 6: Hero (33252)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (160011)
TherodManiac: posts small blind 1500
SithJ: posts big blind 3000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero K J
Garlinsky: folds
Hero: raises 4000 to 7000
TherodManiac: folds
SithJ: folds
Uncalled bet (4000) returned to Hero
Hero collected 8700

5 4 CO (Hero's M = 8.59; F+f+f[/color])
7 2 BB (Hero's M = 8.52; f+r+c+F)

-----Hand 30-----
Hero's M = 7.79
PokerStars Game #35845684866: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2009/11/25 23:34:12 EET [2009/11/25 16:34:12 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Garlinsky (77337)
Seat 6: Hero (35052)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (157611)
Hero: posts small blind 1500
TherodManiac: posts big blind 3000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero T 9
Garlinsky: folds
Hero: calls 1500
TherodManiac: raises 3000 to 6000
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet (3000) returned to TherodManiac
TherodManiac collected 6900

7 4 Button (Hero's M = 7.06; F+f[/color])
6 T CO (Hero's M = 6.99; c+c+S+s+S+s+b+F+c+s+s)
4 3 SB (Hero's M = 6.26; f+F)

-----Hand 31-----
Hero's M = 5.86
PokerStars Game #35845735969: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2009/11/25 23:35:17 EET [2009/11/25 16:35:17 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: Garlinsky (88437)
Seat 6: Hero (26352)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (155211)
TherodManiac: posts small blind 1500
Garlinsky: posts big blind 3000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero 8 Q
Hero: raises 23052 to 26052 and is all-in
TherodManiac: folds
Garlinsky: folds
Uncalled bet (23052) returned to Hero
Hero collected 8400

9 3 CO (Hero's M = 6.99; c+c+S+s+S+s+b+F+c+s+s)
5 9 SB (Hero's M = 6.26; f+F)
Q 3 Button (Hero's M = 5.86; F+[/color]c+s+s+b+c+s+s+s+s)

-----Hand 32-----
Hero's M = 5.79
PokerStars Game #35845799442: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2009/11/25 23:36:36 EET [2009/11/25 16:36:36 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: Garlinsky (88137)
Seat 6: Hero (26052)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (155811)
Garlinsky: posts small blind 1500
Hero: posts big blind 3000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero T A
TherodManiac: calls 3000
Garlinsky: folds
Hero: raises 22752 to 25752 and is all-in
TherodManiac: calls 22752
Flop: Q 8 K
Turn: K
River: Q
Showdown
Hero: shows T A (two pair, Kings and Queens)
TherodManiac: shows J J (two pair, Kings and Queens - lower kicker)
Hero collected 53904

-----Hand 33-----
Hero's M = 11.98
PokerStars Game #35845816475: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2009/11/25 23:36:58 EET [2009/11/25 16:36:58 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Garlinsky (86337)
Seat 6: Hero (53904)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (129759)
Hero: posts small blind 1500
TherodManiac: posts big blind 3000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero J 8
Garlinsky: folds
Hero: calls 1500
TherodManiac: checks
Flop: 8 Q 7
Hero: bets 4500
TherodManiac: folds
Uncalled bet (4500) returned to Hero
Hero collected 6900

4 K Button (Hero's M = 12.78; F+[/color]c+s+s+s+s+s+b+c)
3 7 CO (Hero's M = 12.71; c+c+S+s+S+b+f+F)
T K SB (Hero's M = 11.98; r+F+f)

-----Hand 34-----
Hero's M = 11.58
PokerStars Game #35845885122: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2009/11/25 23:38:23 EET [2009/11/25 16:38:23 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: Garlinsky (87987)
Seat 6: Hero (52104)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (129909)
TherodManiac: posts small blind 1500
Garlinsky: posts big blind 3000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero T Q
Hero: raises 4400 to 7400
TherodManiac: folds
Garlinsky: folds
Uncalled bet (4400) returned to Hero
Hero collected 8400

9 5 CO (Hero's M = 12.71; f+f)
2 8 SB (Hero's M = 13.18; f+F)
6 4 Button (Hero's M = 12.78; F+[/color]c+s+s+s+s+s+s+s)

-----Hand 35-----
Hero's M = 12.71
PokerStars Game #35845954225: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2009/11/25 23:39:51 EET [2009/11/25 16:39:51 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: Garlinsky (82737)
Seat 6: Hero (57204)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (130059)
Garlinsky: posts small blind 1500
Hero: posts big blind 3000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero K 2
TherodManiac: folds
Garlinsky: calls 1500
Hero: checks
Flop: K 5 Q
Garlinsky: bets 3000
Hero: calls 3000
Turn: A
Garlinsky: bets 6000
Hero: calls 6000
River: 6
Garlinsky: bets 9000
Hero: calls 9000
Showdown
Garlinsky: shows 6 K (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
Garlinsky collected 42900
Extremophile (big blind): mucked K 2

8 3 SB (Hero's M = 7.98; f+F)
2 7 Button (Hero's M = 7.58; F+[/color]c+s+b+c+s+b+f)
7 K CO (Hero's M = 5.63; r+f+F)
3 8 SB (Hero's M = 4.90; r+F+f)

-----Hand 36-----
Hero's M = 4.50
PokerStars Game #35846038907: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (2000/4000) - 2009/11/25 23:41:37 EET [2009/11/25 16:41:37 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: Garlinsky (118037)
Seat 6: Hero (27004)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (124959)
TherodManiac: posts small blind 2000
Garlinsky: posts big blind 4000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero J A
Hero: raises 22604 to 26604 and is all-in
TherodManiac: folds
Garlinsky: folds
Uncalled bet (22604) returned to Hero
Hero collected 11200

-----Hand 37-----
Hero's M = 5.63
PokerStars Game #35846049377: Tournament #215896758, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (2000/4000) - 2009/11/25 23:41:50 EET [2009/11/25 16:41:50 ET]
Table '215896758 19' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: Garlinsky (113637)
Seat 6: Hero (33804)
Seat 9: TherodManiac (122559)
Garlinsky: posts small blind 2000
Hero: posts big blind 4000
Preflop
Dealt to Hero Q 6
TherodManiac: calls 4000
Garlinsky: calls 2000
Hero: checks
Flop: J Q 9
Garlinsky: checks
Hero: bets 29404 and is all-in
TherodManiac: calls 29404
Garlinsky: folds
Turn: Q
River: 4
Showdown
Hero: shows Q 6 (three of a kind, Queens)
TherodManiac: shows Q A (three of a kind, Queens - Ace kicker)
TherodManiac collected 72008

[baudib]

looked at a couple, few comments

Hand 4: Value bet the river.

Hand 6: Call

Hand 8: Just shove the turn

[fjuanl]

hand 6
-cant raise/fold 88 vs a 10bb shove, odds are too good

hand 8
-bet turn so you can shove rivers (or just shove now if he has near 1 potsized bet left)

hand 11
-generally dont want to defend much on 15bb stacks
-AQ should be well ahead of a normal persons range so just ship it in

hand 14
-maybe you decided to open because you thought villain would spew by calling wide
-but its just too awkward playing 10bbs postflop
its definetly +ev to shove and thats your best option

hand 16
- you might want to take stabs in spots like this occasionally, assuming you think limper is weak

hand 17
- not a fan of minraising blind-vs-blind
- you don't really want to be playing postflop with this stack
- pretty good flop to cbet
- shoving pre is a fine option even though its ~16bbs, although raise/folding is best if BB is a nit

hand 18
- ew, dont 3x
- ew, dont raise/fold with a 10bb stack
- easy shove pre

hand 20
- fine

hand 22
- don't hate the turn stab but i wouldn't keep bluffing especially on that river
- gives him top pair or a straight a lot, plus he likely wont fold a pair anyway

hand 26
- id shove this, the guy seems to be limping way too much
- im not sure if he's made spewy calls before but generally people fold here a lot

hand 29
- another shove with 10bbs

hand 30
- shove, even if he's calling somewhat wide, t9o is too strong

hand 35
- id play this the same without reads
- hes probably limping any two and if he stabbed the flop its a perfect turn for him to continue his bluff
- unless he's been absurdly passive calling down seems fine

[Extremophile]

thank you very much for taking your time to look at the hands.

looked at a couple, few comments

Hand 4: Value bet the river.
You are right I should value-bet the river but I was worried about my kicker.

hand 6
-cant raise/fold 88 vs a 10bb shove, odds are too good

yeah, this guy had been playing sick tight and I didn't want to risk another 1/3 my stack but, I should have called the shove.


hand 8
-bet turn so you can shove rivers (or just shove now if he has near 1 potsized bet left)
I was suprised he didn't 3-bet pre when I saw AQ. I wasn't expecting an A and I didn't want to scare him off the pot. I am missing spots like getting it in on the turn, even though it would be an overbet.

hand 11
-generally dont want to defend much on 15bb stacks
-AQ should be well ahead of a normal persons range so just ship it in
as far as i remember, this guy also didn't play many hands.

hand 14
-maybe you decided to open because you thought villain would spew by calling wide
-but its just too awkward playing 10bbs postflop
its definetly +ev to shove and thats your best option

yes, I should have shoved pre. I decided to raise because villian was slow playing all hands. As you can see from hand 13, he checked it down. You are right, my preflop bet was actually a value bet.


hand 16
- you might want to take stabs in spots like this occasionally, assuming you think limper is weak
I already shoved A9 in the previous hand. Villian's limp right after my shove made me suspicious and I decided to check. Otherwise, I insta-shove.

hand 17
- not a fan of minraising blind-vs-blind
- you don't really want to be playing postflop with this stack
- pretty good flop to cbet
- shoving pre is a fine option even though its ~16bbs, although raise/folding is best if BB is a nit
I have no idea why I minraised at this spot. It is also an excellent flop to c-bet but you know, he slowplays all his good hands. he actually did slowplay this one, too. I suspected he might have an A.

hand 18
- ew, dont 3x
- ew, dont raise/fold with a 10bb stack
- easy shove pre
I played this hand very badly. This was the first time the villian 3-bet pre. I decided to fold.

hand 20
- fine

hand 22
- don't hate the turn stab but i wouldn't keep bluffing especially on that river
- gives him top pair or a straight a lot, plus he likely wont fold a pair anyway
I decided to take a shot on turn because if he has an A, he will call the turn bet with a draw and may fold to my double barrel if he misses the draw.

hand 26
- id shove this, the guy seems to be limping way too much
- im not sure if he's made spewy calls before but generally people fold here a lot
yes, I figured it out after the game. easy shove pre.


hand 29
- another shove with 10bbs

hand 30
- shove, even if he's calling somewhat wide, t9o is too strong
wow, you think T9o is too strong here! Is it because shoving after limping looks like too strong, or you think we have FE, or we are ahead of his range?

hand 35
- id play this the same without reads
- hes probably limping any two and if he stabbed the flop its a perfect turn for him to continue his bluff
- unless he's been absurdly passive calling down seems fine

[fjuanl]

@hand 30: I meant to say shove pre>completing. As played you have to fold

[revolvingiris]

I'm just going to type out what I see as I go down the MTT.

H3: TherodManiac: calls 1200, Garlinsky: calls 1200
note that these two limp folded to your raise. Great spot to pick up value by attacking their limps later.

H4: TherodManiac limped weak again. Im curious about your flop call. Did you think this was a value call? I think your hand plays great esp with the draw but I think its important to know what your going to do on the turn. Like when the 5 comes off. What if villain fires 2/3 pot do you call, jam, fold?

H5: I will check sometimes here although Thero has shown to limp fold in the past I dont hate the raise. Its kind of a tricky flop as what do you do if he calls? I could see some draws being in his range here.

H6: You have to call this. Your getting better than 2:1 and he isn't always dominating you here.

H8: Im going broke. I would probably check flop to play the turn. If villain has a pair that didnt set that A is almost always scaring them off. As played I would shove over river.

H11: I dont really like this call. AQ isnt going to hit that often and you dont want to just check-fold post flop. I would jam over preflop.

H13: I think either jam or fold.

H14: Jam pre flop.

H16: A I dont hate this play I just think its like, meh. You have a hand that is probably ahead of both their ranges but its not great to raise as sith is probably calling. I guess a jam is probably the most profitable. I wouldnt expect sith to show up with like A9+ here like ever.

H17: this is another weird spot. Im pretty sure its +EV to shove this even though the dude in the BB is kind of spewy. I would prefer a fold over a raise. I dont think its good to generally lose 10% of your stack where you really have no chance of winning post. I think if you raise pf you almost always have to bet this flop with your stack. Interesting spot though.

H18: Dont raise fold with this stack size, shove.

H20: Smaller raise size pf. This looks like the first time you have 3x pf?

H21: I like raise size but I think this is a shove or fold spot. I also think its pretty close to which one being correct.

H22: Dont pure bluff into two villains who spew chips. I mean the turn stab is ok but just c/f river.

H25: if villain block bets for draws then I like this raise. Otherwise I think youll get more value on future streets by just calling flop.

H29: shove

H30: shove or fold (its profitable to shove)

H33: I really don't like limping in from the SB unless its for range balancing purposes. Or if you can take it away on the flop a large % of the time.

H34: shoving is profitable

H35: If you thought you were ahead of his range then you needed to jam over somewhere here. I don't think calling to river is most profitable nor do I think its the safer play. If you were worried about not being ahead just fold turn. I like the flop call though.

H37: Your kind of stuck here. I don't think there was much else you could really do.

Anyways, I hope there is something in here that is useful to you somehow. If nothing else I hope it just sheds light on another way to play the hands. GG

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thank you very much revolvingiris for taking time to review it.

H3: TherodManiac: calls 1200, Garlinsky: calls 1200
note that these two limp folded to your raise. Great spot to pick up value by attacking their limps later.
This is true. However, garlinsky was one of the solid players and it also turned out that therodmaniac slow-played ALL his big hands in this FT. You've got to be careful about squeezing, especially against theodmaniac.


H4: TherodManiac limped weak again. Im curious about your flop call. Did you think this was a value call? I think your hand plays great esp with the draw but I think its important to know what your going to do on the turn. Like when the 5 comes off. What if villain fires 2/3 pot do you call, jam, fold?
My comment above applies here again. It turned out that therodmaniac had a relatively good hand.


H5: I will check sometimes here although Thero has shown to limp fold in the past I dont hate the raise. Its kind of a tricky flop as what do you do if he calls? I could see some draws being in his range here.
I have to cbet here being the preflop raiser. this flop is pretty dry and he probably missed it, too. If I check and he bets, I will have to fold. If he calls, I'll be done with hand if the turn is blank. I suspect he folded his AK here. He might have even folded some small and medium PP's.

H6: You have to call this. Your getting better than 2:1 and he isn't always dominating you here.
I completely misplayed this hand. I should have taken time at least to calculate the odds.

H8: Im going broke. I would probably check flop to play the turn. If villain has a pair that didnt set that A is almost always scaring them off. As played I would shove over river.
His range includes several A's, this is why I bet the flop. I could could the initiative to him as well. You are right, checking might be better as he might lead with his PPs. As played, I could have shoved the turn.

H11: I dont really like this call. AQ isnt going to hit that often and you dont want to just check-fold post flop. I would jam over preflop.
the villian was playing sick tight. I'd be flipping at best.

H13: I think either jam or fold.
this probably closer to fold due ICM. big stack on my left can call my shove relatively wider.

H14: Jam pre flop.
the only move, indeed.

H16: A I dont hate this play I just think its like, meh. You have a hand that is probably ahead of both their ranges but its not great to raise as sith is probably calling. I guess a jam is probably the most profitable. I wouldnt expect sith to show up with like A9+ here like ever.
I just shoved the previous hand and was suspicious about sithj's immediate limp at UTG.

H17: this is another weird spot. Im pretty sure its +EV to shove this even though the dude in the BB is kind of spewy. I would prefer a fold over a raise. I dont think its good to generally lose 10% of your stack where you really have no chance of winning post. I think if you raise pf you almost always have to bet this flop with your stack. Interesting spot though.
yeah, just fold pre

H18: Dont raise fold with this stack size, shove.
This is the first and the only time he reraised preflop. I don't know if this read has any meaning. It is really hard to asign a range for him at this spot. I didn't want to be dominated. I should have just shoved pre, though.

H20: Smaller raise size pf. This looks like the first time you have 3x pf?
They recently had no respect to a 2.5x or so and I wanted to try a bigger raise pre to see if I can steal the blinds.


H21: I like raise size but I think this is a shove or fold spot. I also think its pretty close to which one being correct.
It is really hard to openshove this hand at UTG, even though it is 4-handed. I think it should also be hard for others to reraise my bet because, this was my second raise in succession and I had already faced a smililar shove in the previous hand.

H22: Dont pure bluff into two villains who spew chips. I mean the turn stab is ok but just c/f river.
I decided to take a shot on turn because if he has an A, he will call the turn bet with a draw and may fold to my double barrel if he misses the draw.

H25: if villain block bets for draws then I like this raise. Otherwise I think youll get more value on future streets by just calling flop.
He might be block betting for draw but he can also do this with with middle,bottom pairs, or even pure bluff. Calling with still another player left to act is too passive and may put me in a difficult situation. By raising here I accomplish two things:
1) I am cutting the odds of the player that is left to act.
2) I am getting relatively cheaper info to see where I stand at, rather than c/c two more streets without being sure where my hand stands at. There is also possibiity that I can be bluffed off the pot in later streets.

H29: shove
Is this really that simple shove against the big stack? because, the other two guys has stacks closer to mine. Shoving may be wrong due to ICM.

H30: shove or fold (its profitable to shove)

H33: I really don't like limping in from the SB unless its for range balancing purposes. Or if you can take it away on the flop a large % of the time.
He recently raised to my limping at SB and I decided to see if he does it with air or he really has something. I might limp with a strong hand at SB in future after figuring out his tendency. Raising pre might be better.

H34: shoving is profitable

H35: If you thought you were ahead of his range then you needed to jam over somewhere here. I don't think calling to river is most profitable nor do I think its the safer play. If you were worried about not being ahead just fold turn. I like the flop call though.
I thought about this but I chose to call in order to bust his missed FD. Folding the river or even turn is way better.

H37: Your kind of stuck here. I don't think there was much else you could really do.

Anyways, I hope there is something in here that is useful to you somehow. If nothing else I hope it just sheds light on another way to play the hands. GG
yes, it definitely helps, thank you very much

[revolvingiris]

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[revolvingiris]

I think a lot of your thought process is in the right order but the application is a little off. You have to not be afraid to go broke. A lot of the shoves I suggested were including ICM (rarely do I just look at cEV).

When you get down to final tables in 180s you don't ever really have a stack you can profitably bet fold. Nor can you really bet a ton for information. A lot of the time you will have 20bb and just be looking to fold or shove. In 180s you want to get a top 2 pay day being that is where the real profit lies in these.

H13: I think either jam or fold.
this probably closer to fold due ICM. big stack on my left can call my shove relatively wider.

This hand was a good example of what I was talking about. Even if they are calling you with a wider range. They still aren't calling you wide enough to make this not a profitable shove. The only way I could ever see this being an ICM open fold is if Seat 4: bAm0404 (16368) throws the calculations off.

To find how many BBs you really have in a hand take: sb+bb+ (ante*no of players left). Then mutliplay that number by 2/3 to find the real cost of the BB (which would leave you with 10.7bb). QJ is certainly a profitable shove here with that number (I believe Nash would say 20bb is profitable to shove).

The reoccuring issue I see in this HH is you risked too many chips in situations where you would raise and have to give up with too small of a stack size. Remember that at a FT every chip bet is worth a dollar amount. So all the times you would bet and then lose the pot you were giving money away. Find and study the Nash equilibrium (focus a lot more on the push/fold aspect). It will give you a big edge over your buyin level.

H4: TherodManiac limped weak again. Im curious about your flop call. Did you think this was a value call? I think your hand plays great esp with the draw but I think its important to know what your going to do on the turn. Like when the 5 comes off. What if villain fires 2/3 pot do you call, jam, fold?
My comment above applies here again. It turned out that therodmaniac had a relatively good hand.

I just wanted to bring this up. Ok so your read is that he limps weak hands and ok strong hands (aka he is basically tight passive. Except when he open bets he is at the top of his range and you just fold everything.) You also noticed that he will bet out multiple streets with middle pair top kicker. Your goal should be to adjust to this player and value him to death with almost any top pair+ hand. Always be looking for player types and how to adjust to them. Its the best way to extract value and your reading skills will develop much faster. Knowing a range is good but knowing how a player plays that range is much, much better.

Wow, that ended up being much longer than I intended

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[quote="revolvingiris"]This final table was especially tough for me when it was 4-5 handed. I should work more on push/fold strategy.

To find how many BBs you really have in a hand take: sb+bb+ (ante*no of players left). Then, mutliplay that number by 2/3 to find the real cost of the BB (which would leave you with 10.7bb). QJ is certainly a profitable shove here with that number (I believe Nash would say 20bb is profitable to shove).

I'll check it out. In HOH2, as far as I remember, Harrington says in order to find the true M, we should multiply our M with n/9, where n is the number of players left. So, lets say if it is 3 handed:

M= 3/9[your stack/(BB+SB+antes)]

This formula actually makes it an even easier push.

[revolvingiris]

M is the amount of orbits you can withstand with your current chip stack including the blinds+antes.

I was talking about your "true BB" which I believe is found using the equation I sloppily posted above. (SB+BB) + (ante*# of players) * (2/3) = true BB; true BB/Stack= how many BBs you have in your stack.