PP in the blind facing a min raise.

[Alpine021]

I've had this happen lots and it happened again before.

I've just had 66 in the BB blinds 20 / 40 I think and cut off made it 80.

I call and it comes J 3 5. How do people usually proceed from here? I felt like leading out was better than a CC as not many turns cards are favourable unless I'm going to start representing an overcard. I'm certainly not check raising and check folding is a little weak.

But he raised me which happens a lot and I'm sure people do this simply because they were the preflop aggressor and in position and I simply can't call.


If I check I know he's going to bet 70% of the time.

Any thoughts?

It's weird how a lot of the more advanced concepts seem easy over time and then simple things like this just throw me.

Check folding is a bit tight but I really don't like this spot out of position...

[baudib]

the blinds aren't big enough to resteal, play for set value and check-fold if you miss.

[NobleTruths]

Check folding is a bit tight but I really don't like this spot out of position...

that is the strength of position. if you dont like being out of position, then fold the low pp preflop. baudib is exactly right.

[acoss3006]

Agree with baudib - its an easy check/fold on the flop.

In relation to your other thoughts, your right that generally the preflop aggressor will bet the flop as a continuation bet, regardless of whether they hit the flop or not. A common adjustment to these villians is to call their cbet and bet at the pot when they check the turn (called 'floating').

But floating here with 66 isnt optimal, because if we are already beaten we only have 2 outs or an 8% chance of improving our hand by the river. And even if we arent beaten yet, villian is likely to have a greater chance of improving his hand than we do.

So if you want to float, do it with hands where you have a greater chance of improving (more outs - such as overcards, open-ended straight draws, flush draws etc), and hence more equity in the hand..

[taipan168]

I'm with the check/fold on the flop camp too. If opp checks behind and the turn comes another blank then you can consider betting like 1/2-2/3 pot to try to take it down.

[TLR]

Check fold is the standard line

I sometimes go for C-R in this situation, which often wins the pot if villian missed

[drmcboy]

I would c/c this board and usually give up from there.

stack sizes and reads would help a lot.

vs tight players you're almost never making enough flopping sets and vs loose active players just calling to donate 1BB vs a c bet 7/8 is also bad. So I don't think set hunt should be anyone's standard play here.

leading out seems bad unless you have some reason to think you can get to showdown without betting more or that somehow you can get two streets of value here. you take away the c bet and give him more chances to out play you.