50nl - Sup SHNL I will be posting here regularly now

[Micro2Macro]

Hey guys. I think some of you know me though I don't do much around the SHNL forum besides lurk and post randomly. I'm sick of grinding full ring so I'm going to play some 6max/HU and post hands more often to try and get better. I apologize if some of these are your standard 'lol fold' or 'lol call' posts but I'm trying not to miss anything important I could get feedback for a bit and hopefully I'll post some tougher spots later on that won't be as annoying to look at. Basically, the first few hands I post will probably be very VERY standard but it's just a way for me to actually put effort into reviewing hands from each session to develop better study habits. You can just ignore my threads if you want.



Here is a somewhat (relevant given the way he played it?) hand villain recently was involved in: (This is NOT the hand I am posting about)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($39.30)
UTG ($61.40)
MP ($19.05)
Hero (CO) ($51.35)
Button ($77.70)
SB ($108.45)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 2, 4
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, Button bets $2, 1 fold, BB calls $1.50, UTG raises to $7, Button calls $5, BB calls $5

Flop: ($21.25) 10, 9, K (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Button checks

Turn: ($21.25) J (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $11.50, Button calls $11.50, 1 fold

River: ($44.25) 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Button checks

Total pot: $44.25 | Rake: $2.15

Results:
Button mucked A, Q (straight, Ace high).
UTG had Q, Q (flush, King high).
Outcome: UTG won $42.10

The BTN who showed AsQs is the same villain involved in the next hand (he is the SB)


Now onto the hand in question:

I elected to call preflop because neither of the blinds had been squeezing at all and this guy hadn't really been very aggressive preflop. He's also seem like a big fish, as does the guy to my right and I figure if I just call I can keep the half stack in the pot who's probably calling the PFR with tons of Qx and Ax hands that I dominate, though I'm not sure how loose he's playing to 3bets.

The SB (overcaller) is sort of a passive 'semi reg' I guess. He's running 23/17 and has yet to 3bet over 90 hands. His AF is 1.8 so far. He has also called 4/6 3bets preflop (2 were actually 4bets).... He's folded to 2/3 cbets thus far.

What do you guys think about my flop raise sizing? As for the turn I was trying to decide whether or not to bet bigger like $16+ or just around half pot.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($44.30)
MP ($58.50)
CO ($23.80)
Hero (Button) ($58)
SB ($50.25)
BB ($110.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, A
UTG bets $2, 1 fold, CO calls $2, Hero calls $2, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($10) Q, 3, 9 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $7.50, SB calls $7.50, 2 folds

Turn: ($26) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $13.50, SB calls $13.50

River: ($53) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $27.25 (All-In), [color=#666666]Hero..


Wondering if my range is reasonable here. I don't think he'd really play KQ like this, but QQ being in his range is also debatable - though given how he played the last hand I feel as if I almost never see top pair do this...and given my line it's pretty doubtful a busted FD would jam...(he did it quickly fwiw)

Board: Qc 3d 9d 3s 8c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 80.000% 60.00% 20.00% 9 3.00 { QQ, 99, 33, AQs, JTs, AQo }
Hand 1: 20.000% 00.00% 20.00% 0 3.00 { AsQs }

against this range I only have 20% equity and need like 25% for a call (math check?)

Comments appreciated (I apologize for the long and confusing as hell post)

[meeloche]

You're getting a really good price and there just aren't many hands that have you beat. I guess he has quads but I don't think I fold. I think his range here is like 33 99 or terribly played diamonds or something random.

[Ravageur]

it's funny, in the 'old' days, circa 2006 this is such a snap call because it's a missed draw but it's become rarer to see people play draws so transparently bad. That being said this is tough to fold and I just look it up and be sure to take a note on the guy when we're getting such a good price and so few hands beat us.

[GatorJH]

with the price he was getting I could see Q9 in his range as well. Personally I think you are better off 3betting pre here as it smells of squeeze so you are more likely to get called lightly by UTG or CO

[Shifubowa]

Agree with Gator. Unless UTG is a nit I am 3 betting pre in this spot - but as played I call river too.

[eragotte]

i always 3bet this and it saves you a lot of trouble on these flops... AQs is pretty huge 6 handed IP... I also bet turn like 18... on the river i fold this without the hand history usually but the limp reraise with qq shows he is just retarded enough to have diamonds sometimes...

i obviously play lower than you so take it how you want, ive only had a few k hands at 50nl

[IowaSkinsFan]

I think you played it well on every street. I am torn between calling and folding because on one hand it looks exactly like JT but on the other hand flush draw missed and its hard to assume these 50nl players will just check and fold it every time they miss on the river.

[jyms]

i 3bet AQo but call with AQs.

[Alexos]

id prob snap call this if the turn didn't pair the board, but id fold now. Don't think calling and taking a note is that bad, but i think folding is better given reads.

[jyms]

FWIW I think your range for him on the river is far too strong. I wouldn't discount a missed FD her at least 20% of the time, I would also include 89s in his hands since I have seen this happen more times than not as well.

[Micro2Macro]

i always 3bet this and it saves you a lot of trouble on these flops... AQs is pretty huge 6 handed IP... I also bet turn like 18... on the river i fold this without the hand history usually but the limp reraise with qq shows he is just retarded enough to have diamonds sometimes...

i obviously play lower than you so take it how you want, ive only had a few k hands at 50nl

If I was OOP, I would be much more inclined to 3bet.

id prob snap call this if the turn didn't pair the board, but id fold now. Don't think calling and taking a note is that bad, but i think folding is better given reads.

this is exactly what I was thinking, I also planned on betting slightly bigger if the turn didn't pair the board (unnecessary?).

FWIW I think your range for him on the river is far too strong. I wouldn't discount a missed FD her at least 20% of the time, I would also include 89s in his hands since I have seen this happen more times than not as well.

this is a good point.