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100NL: TPTK vs relatively unknown donk

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  1. #1

    Default 100NL: TPTK vs relatively unknown donk

    Villain is like 46/17/2.5 over like 20 hand sample. Obv to stack off here we have to put worse kings in his range. Is that absurdly optimistic?

    Stacks:
    UTG darkem ($35.75)
    UTG+1 dushi00 ($96.70)
    CO macstarr ($521.75)
    BTN Hero ($104.55)
    SB GoInside ($110.25)
    BB noplom ($101.50)

    Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN
    darkem calls $1, dushi00 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, darkem folds, dushi00 calls $5

    Flop: ($14.50, 2 players)
    dushi00 checks, Hero bets $11, dushi00 calls $11

    Turn: ($36.50, 2 players)
    dushi00 checks, Hero bets $24, dushi00 raises to $54, $30 to Hero ($63.55)?
  2. #2
    I personally would be C betting and barreling a little less. Your acting like you want to get it in after 3 betting and forcing his range to be a lot stronger. Do you Cbet and barrel QQ or your air this much after 3betting the button?

    Also, if you weren't expecting the raise, why bet? It's considered the golden rule of poker that if you don't know what your going to do if raised then why are you betting. It's the only thing you need to anticipate.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by jyms
    I personally would be C betting and barreling a little less. Your acting like you want to get it in after 3 betting and forcing his range to be a lot stronger. Do you Cbet and barrel QQ or your air this much after 3betting the button?

    Also, if you weren't expecting the raise, why bet? It's considered the golden rule of poker that if you don't know what your going to do if raised then why are you betting. It's the only thing you need to anticipate.
    Did you respond to the wrong thread?

    I don't get this response like at all
  4. #4
    I'd b/f the turn I just don't see him ever bluffing here. There is definitely value in a bet though.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer
    Quote Originally Posted by jyms
    I personally would be C betting and barreling a little less. Your acting like you want to get it in after 3 betting and forcing his range to be a lot stronger. Do you Cbet and barrel QQ or your air this much after 3betting the button?

    Also, if you weren't expecting the raise, why bet? It's considered the golden rule of poker that if you don't know what your going to do if raised then why are you betting. It's the only thing you need to anticipate.
    Did you respond to the wrong thread?

    I don't get this response like at all
    The bet sizing is a little high for lesser K's and whatever garbage you would like him to call multiple streets with to come along. If your going to get called for 2 or three streets here and still be able to bluff barrel you would need to balance your betting a bit.

    Also, asking what the plan is after a raise means you didn't anticipate the raise. What we need to do when betting is always anticipate the raise, and by doing so it helps us think about bet sizing. We don't need to anticipate a call or a fold because they both close the action, but a raise is something we need to react to. If he's only folding or raising here then betting more or less may help our decision. Like did he raise here because I showed weakness? did he raise because he has it?
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    B/f seems about good, even is he´s a donk you´d still need some sort of read to put K9-KQ in his range. He also cant have TP+bdfd.
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  7. #7
    I like b/f'ing this spot. his range can definitely have 33 and 77 in it a lot of the time. He's pretty loose and he limp called a big raise oop. It is more often than not donk's trying to catch a miracle flop. When they do this is a very common line they take to commit the pfr. he doesn't seem smart enough to rep this hand so more often than not i think hes got it. I like the turn bet with the intention of folding to get value out of smaller pp's or worse kings.

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