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    Default AK facing tons of aggression [$11 9man]

    On a shorthanded table, I'm never good here right? I have been multitabling, so no reads, and villains probably see me as tight.

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    Button (t1395)
    SB (t1230)
    Jizzy Sawya (BB) (t2710)
    UTG (t2040)
    MP (t2130)
    CO (t3995)

    Jizzy Sawya's M: 12.04

    Preflop: Jizzy Sawya is BB with ,
    2 folds, CO bets t385, Button raises to t620, 1 fold, Hero (t0) ?
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    Wow, I really think you're too tight. I'd have no problem shoving over both these guys here. Considering his stack size and position, CO's range should be very wide indeed, and I rarely give credit for a retarded minraise by Button, that's definitely not always AA or KK only. I'd shove over to get CO out of the hand, allowing you to go up against Button with CO's dead chips in the pot. Heck, you never know - Button might even fold - I've seen it before!
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    hahaha, does it not matter that the initial raiser is the top chip, and does so for a nonstandard amount? BTN is probably looking to get it in vs. many hands to double, but top chip is in no hurry.

    on the other hand, it does look like a genuine steal attempt...
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    this is why god made HUDs
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    If it were a raise / call, it would be an easy shove. Problem is that an A is a distinct possibility in one of those two hands. Possibly even AK.

    So I would not assume I have the 6 outs to make a hand.

    The button is already priced in with anything, so you have no fold equity against any low or mid pocket pairs. It is the fold equity that makes the AK push such a good play in other situations. It will drive out 22-88 in most low stakes games.

    I would just let it go.
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    it's basically impossible for BU to have more pairs in his range than non pairs so no FE vs him is pretty good. unless one or the other is running < 5 PFR seems like a trivial shove.

    I don't understand your comments about CO, "top chips" don't steal? You comment on the raise size but no reason to assume this isn't his standard, all of the cool kids raise small these days. He has plenty of room to fold and is facing two players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
    hahaha, does it not matter that the initial raiser is the top chip, and does so for a nonstandard amount?
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    I think a squeeze is best here. I give you odds that the button has a pair but it could be an under pair to both your cards. I repop to isolate and gamble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drmcboy
    this is why god made HUDs
    without a HUD I have pretty good reads during the game, I usually don't have time to write the reads down or whatever because I'm grinding when I c/p the tough hands. I usually review play like once a week, but I will try to do so more often in the future.

    Yeah, the "top chip" (big stack for the uninitiated) complicates things. I'm currently second in chips and have D easily covered, but CO's smaller raise worries me. If I shove, I find out if he indeed has a hand he likes. But if I shove and get called by D, I can only lose like half of my stack if I'm wrong.

    I'm not sure if I bring my problem with this spot well across in words, but I fear the big stack because I have a big stack myself, regardless of my hand strength (i guess).
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    Read on CO would be nice here, obviously Button can't fold but that's fine, don't mind getting it in as CO is folding a lot. If chip stacks were reversed (i.e. Button was chipleader) I could see a fold.
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