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  1. #1

    Default middle pair + flush draw

    Better way to play this? I can't imagine folding preflop is correct.

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 11 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    SB (t1405)
    Hero (BB) (t2675)
    UTG (t655)
    UTG+1 (t2985)
    MP1 (t2500)
    MP2 (t1095)
    CO (t870)
    Button (t1315)

    Hero's M: 35.67

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 10, K
    3 folds, MP2 bets t100, 3 folds, Hero calls t50

    Flop: (t225) 6, A, K (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP2 bets t225, Hero raises to t2575 (All-In)
  2. #2
    this is fine for sure, but I think calling and shoving turns you miss might be better.

    He's never folding Ax on the flop, but maybe if a broadway comes he'll talk himself into folding like A4. And if he will fold KQ/KJ/KT on flop he'll fold them on turn also.

    If you hit anything just let him bet it and/or shove river
  3. #3
    you need the raiser to fold a reasonable amount of the time for that play to work. A solid raise could have the same effect without risking stacks. If you raise and he reraises you can fold. I just think ur deep enough that you don't have to play for stacks
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    If you raise and he reraises you can fold.
    why would you ever fold, after you reraise and he shoves over, when you have most likely have 14 clean outs, twice. also mp2 started hand with 1095. what amount are you reraising, thats not AI???
  5. #5
    Seems fine to me, I play it the same. drmcboy raises an interesting line about calling flop and shoving turn, but I think I prefer getting my chips in on the flop for the following reasons:

    - Opp will most likely call our C-R with Ax on the flop but he will probably fold weaker aces if a third club comes on the turn
    - Are we still prepared to commit the rest of our (well, opp's) stack if a non-club Q or J comes on the turn?
  6. #6
    What Taipan said+our shove has some fold equity

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