daily 80k 3way QQ spot early

[lNormajean]

no reads pretty early in daily 80k
3bet pre?
insta jam from original raiser and overcall are scaryyy


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 55 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB (t7114)
BB (t1123)
UTG (t3125)
UTG+1 (t3465)
Hero (MP1) (t3595)
MP2 (t2220)
MP3 (t3070)
CO (t3142)
Button (t3210)

Hero's M: 47.93

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q, Q
1 fold, UTG+1 bets t150, Hero calls t150, MP2 calls t150, 4 folds, BB calls t100

Flop: (t625) 4, J, 7 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets t400, Hero raises to t920, MP2 calls t920, 1 fold, [color=#CC3333]UTG+1 raises to t3315 (All-In)

[drmcboy]

pre is close, I would raise at 50/100 and not at 15/30.

people play so terrible in this tourney I would just get it in

[baudib]

I would definitely reraise pre and be willing to get it in. Looks like Mp2 just sucks, but yeah, UTG+1 has us crushed a lot (I don't think he has AJ/TT very often) but I'm not sure I could get away from this.

[lNormajean]

i think against just utg+1 im alot happier to get it in because afterall i didnt 3 bet to disguise my hand and to get him to do somethin crazy.

however vs 2 players, no matter how sucky mp2 is our chances of holding up if we have the best hand are less, shud this effect our decision?

how bad is calling and getting it in on a non club/over?

[fjuanl]

hero has 0 chips left if hero calls flop shove

i think with this action you can fold QQ. UTG+1's range is like QQ+, 44/77, AcKc. he didn't think even consider folding so I think AJ is much less likely

[baudib]

Juan are you calling with KK then?

[fjuanl]

Looks like he's getting over 2/1 so ya. But I'd almost never flat KK in this spot

[mcatdog]

Don't raise the flop.

[chardrian]

stats help even over a limited sample size pre. But most likely I am raising pre especially on Stars.

as played pre, I agree w/mcat and just call post. draws aren't folding, hands that crush us aren't folding, and the hands that we dominate we don't want to fold.

[DarkHorse83]

pre is close, I would raise at 50/100 and not at 15/30.

Please explain the thought process behind this, thanks.

[Sprayed]

stats help even over a limited sample size pre. But most likely I am raising pre especially on Stars.

as played pre, I agree w/mcat and just call post. draws aren't folding, hands that crush us aren't folding, and the hands that we dominate we don't want to fold.

Says stats are standard (ie not nitty or donkish), what are going to do pre if you 3bet and he 4bets?

I don't know if I like 3beting pre with QQ against most semi knowledgeable players that are raising from EP with these stacks.

I do agree that you want to keep the pot manageable post.

[Sprayed]

pre is close, I would raise at 50/100 and not at 15/30.

Please explain the thought process behind this, thanks.

Stack sizes change from ~100bb stacks at 15/30 to 30bbs at 50/100.