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  1. #1

    Default Bubble spot ($16)

    What is the worst hand you push AI with here?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 16 Tournament, 300/600 Blinds 50 Ante (4 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB (t3640)
    Hero (UTG) (t4395)
    Button (t1545)
    SB (t3920)

    Hero's M: 4.00

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with X X
  2. #2
    This really depents on opponents and table dynamics. With the right players I am shoving almost atc here.
  3. #3
    On one hand you need to push tight here to account for the fact that opponents' calling ranges have considerably opened up with blinds that high. This also increases our Equity-if-we-fold, since there is relatively big chance someone will be knocked out this particular hand.
    On the other hand our equity is really not as big as SnGWiz would make us believe, because we'll pay a ginormous part of our stack in blinds next two hands.
    Depending on whether the looser callers are the ones with the bigger stacks or small stacks, I'd push something like 77+, AJ+.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Fielmann
    On one hand you need to push tight here to account for the fact that opponents' calling ranges have considerably opened up with blinds that high. This also increases our Equity-if-we-fold, since there is relatively big chance someone will be knocked out this particular hand.
    On the other hand our equity is really not as big as SnGWiz would make us believe, because we'll pay a ginormous part of our stack in blinds next two hands.
    Depending on whether the looser callers are the ones with the bigger stacks or small stacks, I'd push something like 77+, AJ+.
    I think your range is too tight here, given 'standard' players I will push any PP, A7+, KQ, any possibly any 2 cards T+


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    Button may have decided that he needed to push any two decent cards in this situation, and when attacked, call with some pretty questionable garbage.

    KK seems a little tight.

    JJ+, AQ+

    Also depend on how much you have been pushing as of late. Always need to fear the spite call.
  7. #7
    I push more openly here b/c the other 2 play tighter range hoping they can get itm if btn bust out.

    So, 2 scenarios may happen -
    #1. btn folds, then I put sb maybe 77+, A9s+, AJo+, KQs. bb will be similar but maybe a bit wider range.

    #2. btn calls, then sb & bb are both going to call a much tighter range:
    99+, AQ+, maybe AJ+. btn's range is gonna be giant, TJ+,22+,Ax,suited connectors and suited gappers.

    so to answer the Q I AI w/ 22+, Ax, JTs+, QJ+. Maybe even T9s.
    So wide b/c blinds are giant and btn's the only one I'm going to showdown w/ most of the time. Other times I'm picking up 1k chips(~25% my stack).



    I just ran pokerstove, pretty much 50% equity if btn calls, 37% equity if the other two call. Pretty good b/c they're only calling ~8-10%.

    in that situation, sngwiz says: 33+, A7o+, A2s+, K9s+, broadways except QTo,JTo.

    But like lostrem said, it will depend heavily on table dynamics. I like SMRZ's 'spite call' haha I could never put a name on that until I saw that. Ppl do that to me all the time, and I get paid woot.
    Not really sure tho, I dont really play $16 nor do I play on stars.
  8. #8
    In game, I'd shove 66+, AT+ but this is the sort of hand that I'd definitely analyse in Wiz and probably post as well.
  9. #9
    when I look at this hand I see that the button has just over 1M and we are sitting in a positon where our stack is either increasing 25% this hand or losing 25% over the next two. I think this is a perfect spot to open shove being as the short stack still has one more hand to get a free look minus his ante and will fold anything but a monster which we would be 33% assuming he had two overs. I also think the other two have stacks big enough that they are going to wait for the blinds to hit the short unless they too have optimal holdings in which case we would still be 33% to win our 25% of our stack. so after all my rambling I'm saying it's a great place to push ATC.
  10. #10
    Actually I missed the stack sizes here - I didn't see that we have everybody else on the table covered. With that in mind I shove MUCH wider than 66+, AT+ provided that I don't have a read that any of the other three players is likely to make a stupid spite call.
  11. #11
    Is it wrong of me to think about pushing ATC here? b\c if it is it's a leak in my game. Should I be tighting up to only start pushing w/pp or should i open it up to suited connectors like 67? The reason i like pushing ATC is that if I'm opening up to push w/ small suited connectors I may well just push ATC b/c won't I still have the same chance of winning if I run into two overs?
  12. #12
    from like top 30%`ish up to ATC depending on who players behind are

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