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    Default Correct All-in? Opinions welcome!

    Hi everyone, new user. Ok this happened in a live tournament a few nights ago in our league, and I'm not sure where I sit on it. I'll try to give as much detail as possible:

    The Facts:

    Final Table, 5 left from 40. Blinds 500/1000, about 3 minutes away from 1000/2000. Starting stacks were 2000.

    Button: Chip leader by a ton.
    SB (me): 3500
    BB: ~8000
    UTG: Massive stack. just a little less than Button. Calling station.
    Cut off: ~15,000

    Pre-Flop:

    UTG: Calls 2000.
    CO: Folds.
    Button: Raise to 4000.
    SB: [5s5d] All in with rest of my 3000.


    Extra Information:

    The UTG was a poor player, but because of the table draws for the night she was at a table with awful players, and when we combined for final, our table, which some how drew all of the best league players, lost only 4. So when she came in, she had huge to our nothing. She never raised. Only called and checked. Never folded, and always saw every hand down to the show down regardless of what she had. She would call BB with a Q4 and called an all-in with a J6 suited.So her call meant nothing to me. However, the Button was the only guy left with me from the original table. He was on a 60 minute heater, and was getting beautiful cards. He played all of his PP extremely aggressive, and always was slow with his AK etc, so I put him on Jacks or better. To his credit: he was a very good player. Myself, I was card dead all night, and I was extremely pleased to have made it to 5th, given the very tough table draw, and the mountain stack calling station. I'm one of the top league players, I won last week, was heads up week before, so I know I can handle most of them. However I feel like this night was the best poker I've ever played in terms of making best decisions, trusting gut, etc, despite the 5th finish.

    Reasoning: I figured the cards were gonna continue to be awful. And I had been waiting many orbits for something good to go all in with. I was hoping I could limit it to just the calling station. I knew Button had me crushed, but with my best PP all night, and 3:1 on my money, and no more room for orbits, I had to take at least give myself a shot, even though I wished the pair would have been higher.

    I think I made the right decision to shove it instead of fold and let them go at it. But something about it makes me kinda irritated. I don't know why. Maybe its cuz I feel it was my best night ever decision wise, and this puts a cloudy finish on what was a great night.Or maybe simply just cuz I didn't win the hand. I don't know. This is the first hand ever thats made me question what I did so much, usually its so easy to learn from what I did wrong cuz I try to limit myself to easy decisions only.

    What do you guys think?
  2. #2
    ) Welcome to the forum.

    2) Don't post results. You'll be a better player and get better replies

    3) This is known as the "Gambler's Fallacy"

    I figured the cards were gonna continue to be awful.
    the cards you've had don't change the cards you will have.

    4) I would guess you missed some shove spots before now. Get/study a good push/fold chart. You should almost never have < 5BBs.

    5) You have 3 hands before you have to post a blind again so the no more orbits thing doesn't make sense.

    6) Doesn't make any difference that this is the best hand you've seen all night. This is a sign of a negative thought process.

    7) there is a chance that the BB might decide to gamble here and you could move up $, which with your crippled stack would be a huge win.


    As for the hand,

    Download poker stove and see what your equity is 3 way vs JJ+ and whatever range you give UTG.

    The fact that if you win you'll have a stack big enough to get some folds and/or try and move up the money is compelling, but so is folding and hoping the BB goes broke here or someone else does in the next couple hands. My guess is you should fold, but I think figuring out the stuff above will help you out more.

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