1010 over pair on flop

[fulksy]

Utg seems pretty laggy but early and no real showdowns so? would of called a shove from utg, was expecting BB to fold.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 6.5 Tournament, 20/40 Blinds (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB (t1320)
UTG (t1065)
Hero (MP) (t1395)
CO (t1500)
Button (t1245)
SB (t2475)

Hero's M: 23.25

Preflop: Hero is MP with 10, 10
UTG bets t120, Hero calls t120, 3 folds, BB calls t80

Flop: (t380) 6, 9, 7 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets t160, Hero raises to t450, BB raises to t1200 (All-In), UTG calls t785 (All-In), Hero folds

[taipan168]

Personally I think I would have just flatted on the flop to see what BB does. If BB folded or just flat called on the flop I think I would go broke on the turn provided that it came a brick.

That said, I don't hate your raise, and I agree that once BB shoves and UTG calls you have to get out.

[TLR]

Tough spot, you have already committed 570 chips and have 825 behind, you need to call 750 to win a pot of 3725, giving you about 1:4 odds.
I think the most likely hands are overpair for UTG and BB having a set or pair+OESD, you are not getting the correct odds to call

[Extremophile]

It looks like we are getting the right price against the tightest ranges. If we fold, we lose.



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4,361,490 games 0.171 secs 25,505,789 games/sec

Board: 6s 7d 9c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 19.055% 17.23% 01.83% 751410 79682.00 { TcTh }
Hand 1: 40.472% 38.38% 02.09% 1674006 91193.00 { 66+, T8s, 97s-96s, 76s, T8o, 97o-96o, 76o }
Hand 2: 40.472% 38.38% 02.09% 1674006 91193.00 { 66+, T8s, 97s-96s, 76s, T8o, 97o-96o, 76o }

[TLR]

I think it is a decent range for BB, UTG has a narrower range and his most likely hand is an overpair

[taipan168]

I think it is a decent range for BB, UTG has a narrower range and his most likely hand is an overpair

I agree, I don't think it makes sense to put UTG and BB on the same range given the preflop action however I would put UTG on 66+ which covers all the overpairs, sets and the OESD:

Board: 6s 9c 7d
Dead:

equity win tie
Hand 0: 18.995% 17.64% 01.36% { TT }
Hand 1: 47.651% 46.28% 01.37% { 66+, T8s, 97s-96s, 76s, T8o, 97o-96o, 76o }
Hand 2: 33.354% 32.45% 00.90% { 66+ }

As for pot odds, we need to call 750 chips to see a pot of 2975 which is 4:1 on our money. However, if we are 19% to win against their ranges then we need pot odds of 4.25 to 1 to make this a profitable call before the ICM effect. That's why I think this one is a fold.

[Extremophile]

All right, I agree BB can't have JJ+ but, given the read in OP that UTG is laggy, I am surprised you guys are giving him this tight of a range. He might even be pushing with a draw. I'd put top pairs and drawing hands on both of thier ranges. We might have the best hand on the flop.

[fulksy]

obviously i know what they showed up with, but trying to put that aside with my read for UTG's range is wider then 66+, don't want to say what i think his range actually is/was because i think i'm to bias here. but just wondering how Knowing he has a wider range affects my decision.

[taipan168]

obviously i know what they showed up with, but trying to put that aside with my read for UTG's range is wider then 66+, don't want to say what i think his range actually is/was because i think i'm to bias here. but just wondering how Knowing he has a wider range affects my decision.

Even if his range is wider I still think it's kind of marginal once you take the ICM effect into account...

[Nakamura]

After a raise and a re-raise the BB is never pitching up with a weak hand here. He'll have a set, two pair, the straight, or a pair and OESD.

[baudib]

I think BB's range is wider and will consist of a lot more garbage 8x hands...

I suppose we are calling with JJ then?

[atlantafalcons0]

Utg seems pretty laggy but early and no real showdowns so? would of called a shove from utg, was expecting BB to fold.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 6.5 Tournament, 20/40 Blinds (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB (t1320)
UTG (t1065)
Hero (MP) (t1395)
CO (t1500)
Button (t1245)
SB (t2475)

Hero's M: 23.25

Preflop: Hero is MP with 10, 10
UTG bets t120, Hero calls t120, 3 folds, BB calls t80

Flop: (t380) 6, 9, 7 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets t160, Hero raises to t450, BB raises to t1200 (All-In), UTG calls t785 (All-In), Hero folds

I think this was a good fold.

You have to expect them to have something like two pair or a set in that spot.

Once in a while a good draw.