Flopped second nut flush against LAGGtard ($27)

[taipan168]

What's the best way to extract chips from this 65/35/6.0 LAGGtard? Just call his minraise and see if he'll fire again on the turn or get 'em in now?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 27 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO (t1630)
Button (t2230)
Hero (SB) (t4030)
BB (t2095)
UTG (t2150)
MP (t1365)

Hero's M: 26.87

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, 9
4 folds, Hero bets t250, BB calls t150

Flop: (t500) 6, Q, J (2 players)
Hero bets t350, BB raises to t700, Hero ????

[vaaanha]

65/35? I'd personally call his reraise & check the turn. Maybe value is running out a little but this line looks pretty weak so I guess he'll try to bluff You out.

[Fielmann]

How about check-raising flop? Villain's AF is 6.0 which means he doesn't like calling, which means that if we c-bet away on such a scary board, he'll often just correctly fold.
As played his range is still weak, imo. I'd call, giving him a chance to improve to second-best hand.

[Jack Sawyer]

probably call, and bet out turn for like 350 once again.

[drmcboy]

deeper I would 3 bet because I think calling looks too spooky, here I think calling is better because if he has nothing he almost has to shove the turn as long as you dodge a diamond. Also I would guess he would have 3 bet AQ/KQ pre.

[TLR]

I would call and check the turn, hoping he would shove

[lolzzz_321]

i would call and check the turn, hoping he would shove

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[Nakamura]

If you just call this obviously checking the turn is good since how many SNG players call the flop and lead the turn with less than a flush? I think the villain would make a same assumption.

Personally I think the calling line is too spooky and the most likely result is check-check, check-check. Shoving gives the him opportunity to call with worse hands like QJ, AdX or TP. I just shove over the min-raise.

[baudib]

I would let time run down and shove over the flop raise.

[atlantafalcons0]

What's the best way to extract chips from this 65/35/6.0 LAGGtard? Just call his minraise and see if he'll fire again on the turn or get 'em in now?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 27 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO (t1630)
Button (t2230)
Hero (SB) (t4030)
BB (t2095)
UTG (t2150)
MP (t1365)

Hero's M: 26.87

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, 9
4 folds, Hero bets t250, BB calls t150

Flop: (t500) 6, Q, J (2 players)
Hero bets t350, BB raises to t700, Hero ????

This one is pretty simple, you'd just want to shove here.

No need in calling and letting that ace of diamonds catch.

[drmcboy]

poor thought process, if he has the Ad it doesn't matter what we do, although some actions might tilt you less.

[atlantafalcons0]

How does it not matter what we do when some actions might tilt you less?

And you're calling my thought process poor?

LOL You didn't really say what you would do.

Instead of betting 350, I would have shoved.

What would you have done????

[taipan168]

Instead of betting 350, I would have shoved.

I don't understand why we would open shove this flop. Why would we fold out a bunch of hands we beat, including potentially the Ad and Qx hands?

[atlantafalcons0]

I don't understand why everyone is criticizing my opinion instead of giving their own opinion.

You don't like a shove on this flop? then what do you like?

[taipan168]

I don't understand why everyone is criticizing my opinion instead of giving their own opinion.

You don't like a shove on this flop? then what do you like?

Nobody is criticising your opinion, we're just trying to have a discussion. Regarding drmcboy, listen to what he says - he'd never get a job in the UN for his diplomacy but you can't fault his logic. Trust me, I've been posting on this boards for five years and he still gives me a hard time when warranted.

First up, personally I like betting this flop as I did. Second choice would be to check/raise but I don't like giving a free card on this board. I don't see the logic of open shoving.

[atlantafalcons0]

Well thanks for clearing that up, if it's just a discussion and not an attack.

It's not like top pair will put any money in there, he'd fold to a bet.

[taipan168]

It's not like top pair will put any money in there, he'd fold to a bet.

Remember that we're up against a LAGG player. His post flop aggression is 6.0, so even if he had top pair I would expect him to try to raise me off my hand. After all, since I raised preflop I may well be c-betting the flop with a naked diamond rather than a made hand.

[TLR]

It's not like top pair will put any money in there, he'd fold to a bet.

I dont think KQ or even QT is folding this easily to a bet here