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  1. #1

    Default Too aggro on button?

    I've been trying to get a bit more aggressive in general due to PT stats but did I push it?
    I think I represented pretty well with the flop call, turn raise for value after a really weak turn bet. River dubious but he did check to me...

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 11 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (Button) (t2240)
    SB (t1559)
    BB (t1790)
    UTG (t2216)
    MP (t5695)

    Hero's M: 29.87

    Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J
    1 fold, MP bets t100, Hero raises to t250, 2 folds, MP calls t150

    Flop: (t575) A, 7, 2 (2 players)
    MP bets t200, Hero calls t200

    Turn: (t975) Q (2 players)
    MP bets t200, Hero raises to t550, MP calls t350

    River: (t2075) 6 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets t1240 (All-In)

    Total pot: t2075
    Last edited by Alpine021; 05-20-2010 at 02:22 PM.
  2. #2
    OK looking back what am i getting to fold considering AK and AQ well within his range. His stats were 30/11 by the way. Just some confirmation as getting back into SNGs after loads of DONs...
  3. #3
    Fold flop. Fold turn. What on earth are you raising for in a 3bet pot with 2 overs to your big pair?
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

    Problem officer...?
  4. #4
    I wasn't thinking about my cards too much. He min bet which he'd done a lot, my 3-bet wasn't big enough which I know. The flop bet looked like a c-bet with an ace to find out where he was so i called to look weak. Then he seemed to carry on his none premium ace with a turn bet of 200 into a 975 pot so I raised and he called. Would he not re/raise all in with AK? Maybe flat with AQ / set. Then he checked the river. How can he not value bet if he thinks he's ahead as he knows (or thinks) I'm not folding due to how I've played the hand.

    Maybe I've over-thought this from start to finish but I don't think he looks strong at any point apart form maybe his flop lead.

    But back to what u said tho - You don't 3-bet in position with a hand that poses problems post flop just to fold to an ace on the flop surely? Turn possibly....
    Last edited by Alpine021; 05-20-2010 at 03:34 PM.
  5. #5
    First of all, what stakes are these? If it is anything under 6 dollars I don't think someone with an A is ever folding here under any circumstances. In fact, I'm probably never folding here unless it's a bubble situation. You have a good hand, but once there are overs on the board you gotta control the pot especially since those overs are clearly in his range.
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

    Problem officer...?
  6. #6
    Going to ignore up to River since it's covered..

    River: MP checks, Hero bets t1240 (All-In)

    I don't understand. This is just burning money.

    The only good thing this does is (maybe) gets him to fold his Queens. He's getting 2:1 so he probably can't drop any aces. He probably doesn't have many Queens in his range either.. KQ and QJs maybe.

    And you are never finding value. He's not going to call with worse after your obvious display of strength.

    My goal for this week is learning to consider my opponents range in reference to where I can find additional value that I've been missing. There's no value here. Just check behind, you may very well be ahead considering the draws bricked.
    Last edited by dneureiter; 05-20-2010 at 11:51 PM.
  7. #7
    Were you tracking his donk-betting at all? I don't see many people donk with top pair. I think a flat-call at the very least is warranted on the flop. The probe on the turn is really not convincing me to fold either, not sure if a raise there is really appropriate though. It needs to be bigger first of all, and I'd say all it will achieve is folding mid-pairs + K7 type hands, which would certainly be in his donk-leading range.

    I'd check behind I think. I guess you might get some value from like 99-JJ, maybe you can convince KK or Qx to fold. Seems like a longshot though.

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