Not convinced whats the best play here in BB

[Straightovic]

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 1.2 Tournament, 40/80 Blinds (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (BB) (t1970)
UTG (t1450)
MP1 (t1950)
MP2 (t2010)
CO (t2470)
Button (t2095)
SB (t1555)

Hero's M: 16.42

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 5
UTG calls t80, MP1 calls t80, MP2 calls t80, 3 folds, Hero checks

Flop: (t360) 5, 9, Q (4 players)
Hero bets t160, UTG raises to t320, 2 folds, Hero raises to t1040, UTG calls t720

Turn: (t2440) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets t850 (All-In), UTG calls t330 (All-In)

River: (t3100) 2 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t3100

What do you think of my 3bet on flop? and the push on the turn? Player is not very tight.

[taipan168]

I think you played it fine, except that I'd probably just stick all my chips in on the flop rather than 3-betting less than AI and getting the rest in on the turn - particularly since you left UTG with only 330 chips behind. That said, so long as you don't fold if a Q comes on the turn then it's fine.

[Nakamura]

Your flop bet definitely needs to be bigger with a straight and flush draws on the board and 3 opponents seeing the flop. This will also make it easier to get all the chips in on the flop or turn.

[Alpine021]

I agree slightly bigger flop bet but apart from that fine. Just don't forget the problem with bottom 2 paid is being counterfeited so shoving turn is a must unless u fill up.

[Tasha]

Sorry to go against the crowd but I disagree. The 3-bet didn't work because he called you anyway. You should have got out of there once the turn didn't come through.
Another way of looking at it is in terms of your pot odds. You needed a full house and from the flop the hand odds of that was 16%. Your 850 all-in was 4:1 pot odds, or about 25%. You want your hand odds to be greater than your pot odds, not the other way around.

[taipan168]

Sorry to go against the crowd but I disagree. The 3-bet didn't work because he called you anyway. You should have got out of there once the turn didn't come through.
Another way of looking at it is in terms of your pot odds. You needed a full house and from the flop the hand odds of that was 16%. Your 850 all-in was 4:1 pot odds, or about 25%. You want your hand odds to be greater than your pot odds, not the other way around.

Ummm, you missed the point that opp has only 330 chips remaining on the turn. Folding a 2440 pot for another 330 chips would be really really bad. This is why I would have just shoved over on the flop.

Also, why do you assume that we don't still have the best hand on the turn? If a Q came on the turn I would be worried (although I'd still call for another 330 chips) but there aren't very many hands that opp might have that the turn would have helped.

[scott72703]

Flop lead pot / just 3bet shove flop. Villain has 1k left pots around 1k after his raise.
What were you trying to accomplish with the turn shove? He's calling you with anything, you're better off stepping up the cost of drawing on the flop.

[Tasha]

Ummm, you missed the point that opp has only 330 chips remaining on the turn. Folding a 2440 pot for another 330 chips would be really really bad. This is why I would have just shoved over on the flop.

I see what you mean about the opp stack size but then wouldn't it be better to just raise to his stack size forcing him all-in if wants to continue but at least leaving you with something in case it all goes bad?

Also, why do you assume that we don't still have the best hand on the turn? If a Q came on the turn I would be worried (although I'd still call for another 330 chips) but there aren't very many hands that opp might have that the turn would have helped.

The villain here doesn't seem to be in the least bit deterred but the rising bets even though it is clearly bringing him to the point where he will need to go all-in after the turn. If he was bluffing it might have made more sense for him to fold and keep the two thirds of his stack that he still had. Instead he pretty much commits himself to going all-in.
Or am I looking at it all wrong?

[taipan168]

The villain here doesn't seem to be in the least bit deterred but the rising bets even though it is clearly bringing him to the point where he will need to go all-in after the turn. If he was bluffing it might have made more sense for him to fold and keep the two thirds of his stack that he still had. Instead he pretty much commits himself to going all-in.
Or am I looking at it all wrong?

Agreed that Villain is totally pot committed by calling Hero's flop raise. That said, what range of hands are you putting Villain on on the flop and how do we fare against that range?

EDIT: I think I've been very generous with Villain's range here and we still have a ton of equity.

Board: 5h 9h Qd
Dead:

equity win tie
Hand 0: 64.092% 64.09% 00.00% { 9c5d }
Hand 1: 35.908% 35.91% 00.00% { QQ+, 99, 55, AhKh, AQs, AhJh, AhTh, Ah8h, Ah7h, Ah6h, Ah4h, Ah3h, Ah2h, KhJh, KhTh, QTs+, AQo, KQo, QTo+ }

[drmcboy]

checking or a ~PSB are so much better than the small flop bet, draws are probably not going to raise you and just take the price. Weak Qs will often call this bet rather than raise now and either get scared away by a bad turn, or improve and you'll have to pay them off. And no matter how much you bet no one is folding Qx on the flop ever and the good Qs will raise.

If they have nothing they are not going to mess around with your spooky weak lead. And if someone has QJ/KQ ish they are going to bet this flop for sure and will probably put you on a draw when you c/r. You also have a chance to trap someone in the middle.

[taipan168]

Yeah good point, I missed the too small flop lead. I would definitely be leading out close to PSB here.