AQ late, raise over 1 limper, BB reraises

[pat3392]

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 10 players
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Hero (CO): t1500 M = 50
BTN: t1490 M = 49.67
SB: t1480 M = 49.33
BB: t1500 M = 50
UTG: t1730 M = 57.67
UTG+1: t1500 M = 50
UTG+2: t1300 M = 43.33
MP1: t1500 M = 50
MP2: t1500 M = 50
MP3: t1500 M = 50

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is CO with Q A
5 folds, MP3 calls t20, Hero raises to t80, 2 folds, BB raises to t220, 1 fold, Hero calls t140

Flop: (t470) 4 9 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t240, BB raises to t500, Hero folds

I really did not know what to do when he raised me... I figured that AQ was ahead of his range(I don't give me opponents too much respect at these low games, perhaps a leak) However he could have quite easily had something like 99 and been ahead so re-raising I thought was incorrect.

[taipan168]

Fold to the preflop 3-bet unless you have a very solid read that BB is aggressive. Whilst low buyin players' ranges can often be quite screwy, that tends to manifest itself in the fact that they will call too loose rather than take the initiative to make a structured 3-bet. Therefore, I don't agree that you are ahead of even an unknown's 3-bet range unless you have a specific read.

[Nakamura]

^^^ This. And your play doesn't really make sense. You raise PF, then call a re-raise and then lead the flop. Think for a moment what hands you would actually do that with. Perhaps AQ+, TT, JJ .... stronger hands probably re-raise PF. There are no scary cards to represent either like an A or K. Since he has been aggressive PF, you would probably have checked good hands like solid draws, sets and over-pairs and check-raised on the flop or turn.

[taipan168]

I missed the flop that OP led the flop, I thought that there were 2 others in the hand and that Hero checked. I agree with Naka, I definitely do not lead the flop in this case, I check behind and take the free card.

[Nakamura]

I missed the flop that OP led the flop, I thought that there were 2 others in the hand and that Hero checked. I agree with Naka, I definitely do not lead the flop in this case, I check behind and take the free card.

Actually, I missed the BB checking too. I thought Hero was leading the flop OOP. Anyway I agree that taking a free turn card is the best play here.

BTW, most opponents will need a very strong hand to re-raise in the BB. AQ is seldom ahead of his range, even at a $3.40.

[drmcboy]

def fold to the 3 bet.

but once he checksI like bet to get him off AK or AQ or whatever trash. Bet more though, like 3/4 PS to make sure he doesn't peel with AK. Clubs are good but the free card will usually not help or get us into trouble.

[fulksy]

def. fold preflop.

Clubs are good but the free card will usually not help or get us into trouble.

this ^^

i bet after bb checks, i think most of our 3 bet calling range would be betting this flop when checked to. villain will most likely fold all unpaired hands.

[taipan168]

but once he checksI like bet to get him off AK or AQ or whatever trash. Bet more though, like 3/4 PS to make sure he doesn't peel with AK. Clubs are good but the free card will usually not help or get us into trouble.

Interested in the logic of betting this flop. What range do you think opp 3-bets with and how do we fare against it? I am always very suspicious when players 3-bet preflop then open check the flop.

[fulksy]

Interested in the logic of betting this flop. What range do you think opp 3-bets with and how do we fare against it? I am always very suspicious when players 3-bet preflop then open check the flop.

i might be way off here, but this how i was thinking about it. and this is making some pretty general assumptions which of course isn't always happening.

i would say his 3 bet range is generally JJ+, AQ+. but at the $3 with no reads it could include 1010/AJs.

so assuming he folds all unpaired hands to a $300 raise, he's folding 57% of the time.

16 ways to make AK and AQ = 32
6 ways to make JJ,QQ,KK,AA = 24

43% of the time you loose your 300 bet, 57% of the time you win the pot of 450

of course he could check raise with AK, or we could c/c and hit an Ace and win at showdown, etc. etc. this was just my line of thinking.

[drmcboy]

If you're calling a 3 bet with AQ it better not be to just put your stack in when it comes Axx/Qxx because you'll be crushed a lot and you only hit a pair 1/3 and sometimes it comes KQx. So the assumption is you are planning on winning this pot when you don't make a pair if you get the chance. Otherwise if you're never making 'a play' not only should you fold, but 4 betting becomes much better than flatting so at least you avoid getting outplayed.

If he has nothing you're probably not going to have a better chance to win the pot than right now and you don't want to give a free card or give him another chance to bluff you out. If he is slow playing a pair it's almost always going to be AA or a set and you don't want a free card. If he managed to check QQ here good for him.

Of course you are suspicious, but that's just because we should have folded pre because most SNG players just 3 bet QQ+. But playing the hand from here assuming he has QQ+ makes no sense.