Hate hands like this, came away disgusted...

[Roco415]

PokerStars Game #47178255087: Tournament #294548909, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2010/07/23 19:57:57 ET
Table '294548909 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Joynormous (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: valvu (590 in chips)
Seat 3: Roco415 (1450 in chips)
Seat 4: PavZilla (2430 in chips)
Seat 5: LengBeer777 (1570 in chips)
Seat 6: Lost Boy 1 (1480 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: bernache1 (1480 in chips)
Seat 8: ACE1383 (1500 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: Gofmakler (1500 in chips)
Lost Boy 1: posts small blind 10
bernache1: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Roco415 [As Ks]
ACE1383: folds
Gofmakler: folds
Joynormous: calls 20
valvu: folds
Roco415: raises 80 to 100
PavZilla: folds
LengBeer777: calls 100
Lost Boy 1: folds
bernache1: raises 180 to 280
Joynormous: folds
Roco415: calls 180
LengBeer777: calls 180
*** FLOP *** [Jh 3d Tc]
bernache1: bets 280
Roco415: folds
LengBeer777: folds
Uncalled bet (280) returned to bernache1
bernache1 collected 870 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 870 | Rake 0
Board [Jh 3d Tc]
Seat 1: Joynormous folded before Flop
Seat 2: valvu folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Roco415 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: PavZilla folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: LengBeer777 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Lost Boy 1 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: bernache1 (big blind) collected (870)
Seat 8: ACE1383 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Gofmakler folded before Flop (didn't bet)


what should I do differently if anything?

[Fielmann]

I think I'd play the same. You're getting nice odds on flop, but considering that you have few, if any, clean outs, I like the fold.

[taipan168]

Seems OK to me without a very solid read on the 3-better. Sucks to fry like 20% of your stack on this hand but I would play it the same.

[drmcboy]

use the hand converter, then be glad you didn't hit a K.

I would just fold pre, if you get action from there you're going to be hoping for a chop.

[dneureiter]

must say i agree with drmcboy. I always feel lame folding in this spot and won't if I know villain is bad or in a 3$ buyin. Any decent is QQ+, AK here though. Basically when we hit we occasionally take it down for a smaller pot or split. But we might also get stacked when we hit.
The other 2/3 of pots when we miss flop pretty much all slide over to villain when he cbets...

[caddie444]

Calling the 3-Bet is by far the worst option. Even at the $10's you'll see ppl 3B with ridiculous hands, so readless I still shove and don't really think twice about it.

[drmcboy]

yeah cramming pre is fine/better than calling

[dneureiter]

Put this into sng wiz and with the first caller calling QQ-TT AQs+ AK [I took AA, KK out of his range] and the 3better calling AK, AQs+, TT++ [assuming he calls entire 3bet range) With these pretty optimistic ranges wiz says to shove QQ++, AKs is -1.1 as a shove. if we add AQo + 99 to both their calling ranges wiz says AKs is break even. Without reads I like a fold but I agree its ship/fold.