KK awkward turn....

[Alpine021]

Villain 42/10 so looseish...


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 22 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG (t945)
Hero (UTG+1) (t1255)
MP1 (t1335)
MP2 (t1875)
MP3 (t1705)
CO (t1395)
Button (t525)
SB (t2625)
BB (t1840)
Hero's M: 27.89

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K, K
1 fold, Hero bets t90, 5 folds, SB calls t75, 1 fold
Flop: (t210) 6, J, Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t120, SB calls t120
Turn: (t450) A (2 players)
SB checks, hero?

My thoughts are flop bet on the small side I know but the turn is tricky. I could be good with a 10, K or obviously a heart. I just feel checking it back is a little weak and I could be missing value against hands I beat with outs as backup should I be behind?

But then again a CR-AI would be a bit of an ugly spot...

[fulksy]

i check back, as most hands that you beat on the flop either improved to beat you or aren't calling another bet when an over card and flush hit.

[Alpine021]

I agree I may not get much action should a flush hit but maybe if a 10 or K hits?

Plus maybe even a brick if I was ahead on the flop i.e. he had a Q maybe.

[drmcboy]

I would b/f really small, like 210, absent an aggro read. He'll have picked up a gutter a lot with his JT types and I doubt he can c/r with worse. He may not call with those hands, but getting him to fold them should be better than giving them a free card.

Also since the Ah came it's less likely that he has a FD. If he has Ax/Aces up/a set we don't have much equity and your implied odds are very low so we don't lose much getting c/r. Also he might not raise Ax or the flush.

downside is if he was slow playing two smaller pair because we have better equity there. But maybe he won't even raise with those?

I think it's close either way, as long as you don't make a big bet.

[taipan168]

I'd raise more preflop (say 120) and as played bet the flop a little harder (say 160).

On the turn, I think I would mostly just check back, but I can see the merits of making a small bets as drmcboy suggested. Agree that a big bet is definitely wrong here. I guess my issue with betting is that given the board whether only hands that beat us will call even a small bet or whether we still keep the draws in.

[3 pairs should be a hand]

I think this is a check behind and hope for a brick. Asses on final street upon card that comes. I think the turn could see you behind anyway - as per usual when you have KK he gets his A. May well be a sneaky check with such as AK. Pot control then if river does see a CR-AI you can get away more cheaply and with less commitment.

Remember he has called a raise from sb pre. What range are you putting him on? 42/10 at bb 30 does not really mean anything. He may have had a run of hands. He may just be a donk with Ax but if he is playing that then that proves my point in the above par. Maybe most likely he has AJ AQ then the turn check makes a lot of sense.

Let's follow through on the assumption he has either A6 AJ AQ with 1 heart as obv Ah has landed. You need a K or a 10 that is not a heart.

I don't like the reverse implied odds at all.

[fulksy]

You need a K or a 10 that is not a heart.

I don't like the reverse implied odds at all.

you might be looking at op wrong as any heart gives us the nuts.

[TLR]

I would check behind here, you dont really have any idea where you stand and you have good draws to a strong hand, and it will be hard to get value from hand that you beat. Checking will also allow you to call a bet of 200-250 on the river if a brick hits and still have a stack of more then 15BB if you lose.