more JJ fun

[Zorkion]

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 2.25 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button (t1485)
SB (t1965)
BB (t1440)
UTG (t1440)
Hero (UTG+1) (t1500)
MP1 (t1230)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1440)

Hero's M: 33.33

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J, J
1 fold, Hero bets t120, 3 folds, CO raises to t210, 3 folds, Hero calls t90

Flop: (t465) 4, 5, Q (2 players)
Hero bets t300, CO calls t300

Turn: (t1065) 2 (2 players)


thoughts, comments, or ideas?

[dneureiter]

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 2.25 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button (t1485)
SB (t1965)
BB (t1440)
UTG (t1440)
Hero (UTG+1) (t1500)
MP1 (t1230)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1440)

Hero's M: 33.33

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J, J
1 fold, Hero bets t120, 3 folds, CO raises to t210, 3 folds, Hero calls t90

Flop: (t465) 4, 5, Q (2 players)
Hero bets t300, CO calls t300

Turn: (t1065) 2 (2 players)


thoughts, comments, or ideas?

pre is standard. If you have reads that he's a real tard you can shove for value and he calls 55+ and weak aces or whatever. otherwise flat.

I'm inclined to just c/f flop if CO is nitty. Assuming he 3bets AQ, TT he only folds AK (maybe) and you get value from only TT.
time to c/f turn for sure though.

[givememyleg]

no reads? if you have none, it helps to mention that.

pre looks okay, i'm c/f flop.

[ManicLombax]

Seems like we get more info oop with a bet on the flop as Zorkion did here. If we're going to c/f flop seems like we're folding to villain's c-bet a lot, and we actually have a hand here (though possibly not the best hand obviously). Yeah he 3-bet pf but it was an itty bitty 3-bet. I'd probably c/f turn though since he called flop.

[drmcboy]

I doubt he folds any hand he 3 bet to our lead so I disagree we get any info. his itty bitty 3 bet gave us a good set mine price but I would be careful deciding that means he doesn't have a big hand with no read.

I could see calling a bet on flop but mostly c/f seems best.

[ManicLombax]

Hmm... yeah. I wasn't counting out the hands he could possibly have here, just thinking there's a possibility he doesn't have a Q or KK+. I think at a 2.25 he could be tiny 3-betting AJ, but probably don't want to count on that without a read (and we have two of the jacks anyway). If we put him on TT+, AQ+ we have 38% equity, most of that coming from the AK combinations.

I'm thinking c/f now. I would have bet the flop here too but probably a mistake without a read that this guy 3-bets weird stuff. Look I learned something.

[Zorkion]

it was quite early in the sng, so I didnt have too many reads on villain as of yet. though as the game progressed, his vpip was hovering around 60% or so.

[taipan168]

I agree with the others, I check the flop with the intention of folding to any reasonably sized bet. It's interesting, this is similar to the JJ hand I posted earlier however in that case I was in position on the flop and opp had checked the flop after 3-betting.

As played, I definitely check the turn and again fold to pretty much any bet.

[Zorkion]

yeah, thats what i did. check, then villain shoved AI, and i folded. I was pretty skeptical about the min reraise preflop, which ive found usually indicates the qq+/Aq+ type hands.

I think at the time i had noticed that villain was playing a few too many hands, hence the cbet, but meh.