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  1. #1

    Default top 2 ak can anyone get away

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

    UTG ($198.85)
    UTG+1 ($254.85)
    MP1 ($324.55)
    Hero (MP2) ($201.25)
    MP3 ($231.90)
    CO ($271.75)
    Button ($250)
    SB ($264.15)
    BB ($287.70)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Ah, Kc
    3 folds, Hero bets $4, 4 folds, BB raises to $11, Hero calls $7

    Flop: ($24.30) 9d, Kd, 5s (2 players)
    BB bets $13, Hero calls $13

    Turn: ($50.30) As (2 players)
    BB bets $33, Hero calls $33

    River: ($116.30) 10h (2 players)
    BB bets $150, Hero calls $144.05 (All-In)

    Total pot: $404.40 | Rake: $3

    Results:
    BB had Qc, Jc (straight, Ace high).
    Hero had Ah, Kc (two pair, Aces and Kings).
    Outcome: BB won $401.40

    this is the worse call of the year i feel like, and this is the worst session ive had in years....
    This is at the end of a 8 buyin downswing couldnt win ah and to save my life... i was actually trying to REDUCE losing to AA or KK, then i figured i had to call him down, wasnt getting a call if i push for worse, then thought about folding the river ....

    I know i shoulda 4betpreflop, i know i shoulda raised the turn(maybe) as played does anyone fidn a fold?
  2. #2
    A few things:

    1) Use a hand converter, like one on weaktight.com or something when you post hands. You'll get a lot more responses that way. It's hard to read this way.

    2) You're being so mega results oriented. If this is your worst hand you've played all years then wow... please let me be you.

    3) Depending on dynamic, ofcourse 4bet/calling off pre would be fine. If you're going to flat, I like the entire hand.
    Last edited by griffey24; 12-10-2010 at 02:01 PM.
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    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  3. #3
    You have to fold any time that you are beat. If you have the worst hand it's your own fault for not realising.

    Edit: sorry, used this thread to vent IRL frustration.
    Last edited by Carroters; 12-10-2010 at 05:58 PM.
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    How about practicing this posting hands shit in the Beginners Circle? I mean why the fek are you posting FR hands in the SH forum?
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    Hai welcome to FTR! lolz

    to fold top two pair in a 3bet pot requires really strong reads or a monotone board. if not you gotta put all your chips in
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    tho i do agree with everything that has been said
    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vi-Zer0Skill View Post
    to fold top two pair in a 3bet pot requires really strong reads or a monotone board. if not you gotta put all your chips in
    That's dumb. This is 200BB deep nitring.
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    well im hemorrhage'n buyins , can someone add me to aim, nickname is treadwater25 thx
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vi-Zer0Skill View Post
    Hai welcome to FTR! lolz

    to fold top two pair in a 3bet pot requires really strong reads or a monotone board. if not you gotta put all your chips in
    General sweeping rules like this are far dumber than actually folding in this spot.
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    i don't think it's too general of a rule carroters; how often would following it get me into trouble anyways? i also assumed 100bb stacks

    ...p4's i didn't notice we're 200bb deep and i don't play full ring, so yea i don't really know that calling the river is better than folding.
    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters
    Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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    hah I didn't notice it was 200bb deep or full ring either. mannn

    I'd probably still call most of the time, but folding at least makes a bit more sense now.
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    I'd snap fold river without even thinking about it. Go ahead, exploit me.
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    given you have no reads and this is 100NL FULL RING AKA THE NITTIEST FUCKING GAME EVER ONLINE then I don't see how you can call, especially if jams river really fast.

    if you had some info beyond 100nl fr then that changes things..
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    {moved from shnl}
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    Quote Originally Posted by ValueTownYou View Post
    well im hemorrhage'n buyins , can someone add me to aim, nickname is treadwater25 thx
    move to 25nl pronto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ValueTownYou View Post

    I know i shoulda 4betpreflop, i know i shoulda raised the turn(maybe) as played does anyone fidn a fold?
    What did you put him on? AA or KK has to be a big part of his range. 4 bet preflop would have been good. Calling is ok too, but how about raising it hard on the flop? If he comes back at you then you can fold.

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