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    Default QQ bet flop? how much?

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 12 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP (t1455)
    Button (t1455)
    Hero (SB) (t3090)
    BB (t1500)
    UTG (t1500)

    Hero's M: 68.67

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q
    2 folds, Button calls t30, Hero bets t120, BB calls t90, Button calls t90

    Flop: (t360) 7, A, 8 (3 players)
    [color=#CC3333]Hero ?
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    I wouldn't, I'd check here and see what action ensues (with the intention of calling). Other than hands like T9 and 65, what hands you beat will call your bet, and with the possible exception of KK, what hands that beat you will fold?
    Last edited by taipan168; 12-22-2010 at 11:54 PM.
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    I'd raise more preflop. It can be tricky raising QQ like that, but you have a large stack and want to avoid someone basically min calling their A5s and out flopping you.

    As played I'd check it slowly, and call if bet into (except for a shove).
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    I actually would've raised here if it was me but after reading mr. taipan's post I realized that checking is indeed the best play here. Man I'm a donk.
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    you don't think you could get a street of value vs a lower PP? i guess if you check and its checked around it will be easier to get a value on turn from lower PP as they will discount the Ace a bit
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    Would you call a turn or river bet if someone floated you?
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    no, but i assume a lower PP would be wanting to get to showdown, and less likely to turn their hand into a bluff, as even bad players usually know its unlikely their getting an unknown (me) of an ace. so anyone who floats then bets i would put them on Ace+
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    If bb didn't tag along I'd like a cbet alot better. I think it's more likely you get called by worse as well as more likely you get a fold (since you only need one instead of 2). I'm checking with the intention of being confused.. but we can just assume these guys are passive (unless we know better) so call one street facing one bet and just give up if bb bets a decent sized bet and is called by button. Get value on the turn if it checks through.

    I get confused in spots like this too so keep that in mind.

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