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    Default Nut flush on the river on a paired board, facing shove

    He is running 47/0 and he is pretty bad.

    Is this ok?

    PartyGaming - $2.40+$0.60|300/600 NL - Holdem - 10 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    UTG: 20,400.00
    UTG+1: 17,530.00
    MP: 24,161.00
    MP+1: 34,813.00
    MP+2: 8,845.00
    LP: 6,450.00
    CO: 27,390.00
    BTN: 26,650.00
    Hero (SB): 25,507.00
    BB: 27,940.00

    Hero posts SB 300.00, BB posts BB 600.00

    Pre Flop: (900.00) Hero has A K

    fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 600.00, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 600.00, Hero raises to 1,500.00, fold, MP+1 calls 900.00, BTN calls 900.00

    Flop: (5100.00, 3 players) T 4 8
    Hero checks, MP+1 bets 600.00, fold, Hero raises to 1,800.00, MP+1 calls 1,200.00

    Turn: (8700.00, 2 players) 8
    Hero checks, MP+1 bets 8,700.00, Hero calls 8,700.00

    River: (26100.00, 2 players) Q
    Hero checks, MP+1 bets 13,050.00, Hero raises to 13,507.00 and is all-in, MP+1 calls 457.00
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    I guess not. I take his flop bet as a weak usual donk bet and I raise him so I can make him fold or have a free turn card.

    The problem is his turn bet. I think such player doesn't bet pot unless he has it. My call is pretty bad and the river calling his shove is even worse....
  3. #3
    You should just cbet the flop. If raised, you should probably push.

    The call on the turn is pretty bad. However, if you are calling the turn, you definitely CANNOT fold when you hit the river!
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    raise more preflop id, make it like 22000-24000

    other then that i agree with CB. bet and shove or any raise.
    if stacks were shorter i like check/Shoving.

    definititely fold turn, definitely call river.
    Last edited by fulksy; 12-23-2010 at 12:39 PM.
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    raise at least 4x pre, I prefer 5x since you're OOP.

    bet flop. This is a great flop to c/shove but you should not expect a 47/0 to bet that often. But since you're here, c/r to 7k or so & call a shove. If he flats it's tough but I would normally just jam the turn.

    what possible hand could he have to fold to 1200 more in a ~6k pot? In what way is this giving yourself a free card? Free would have been to call the 600, this costs more and re opens the betting.
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    BTN could bet as well though
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    Yes guys. I am doing the cbet/shove to a raise play usually in situations like this. I don't know why I played so erratically here.

    Can somebody explain to me why the largest raise?
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    you want to get max value from your big hand, as well when you bet small your giving them better odds to call, you want players to be making mistakes, ex. calling a bigger bet with Ax, Kx, would be a big mistake here, when your betting so small its almost a mistake not to call here with weaker hands. if that makes any sense lol
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    assuming he will never fold his limping range

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