Approach to $EV adjusted winnings in SnG's

[Onfire71]

Hi,

I was just wondering how accurate $EV adjusted winnings is in SnG's? and thus, how seriously I should take it into consideration for making conclusions about my game play?

When I have an upswing my green line is Always way above my redline.. either my redline is following the upward trend or slightly the opposite.. does that really means that I got lucky in many spots?

It only helps me coping with downswings better when my green line goes downwards and my red line is way above it going upwards..

But when I see my redline going "horizontal" or downwards and my green line follows it I get frustrated a bit cuz it seems like my A game totally sucks although I didn't change anything to my game..

btw I also tried to turn it off.. but it seems like I can't anymore ..

[Fielmann]

The red line is a slightly better represenation of how well you've done than the green line, because it eliminates one specific type of luck: the cards that come on the board after you and your opponent have moved all-in.

But there still remains a number of random factors which it doesn't take into account at all. For instance when you get dealt KK vs AA many times in a row, your red line will fall like a stone even though you probably didn't do anything wrong.

Following these lines and their difference etc. will quickly become an obsession and will create tilt. Here's an excercise: play 100 tournaments without following your results at all, whether in the tracker or in the cashier window. It requires some mind-power, but it will make you a better player.

[dneureiter]

Card distribution (especially in turbos) and hitting flops (more so in normal speeds) are both a huge part of short term luck / variance in sngs. Moreso than how many flips you win. If you get AA on the bubble and the other bigstack shoves into you that was extremely lucky and +ev but not reflected by aiev$ same goes for the reverse situation when you shove obviously ATC spots and get owned by big pairs and the like.

[Onfire71]

The red line is a slightly better represenation of how well you've done than the green line, because it eliminates one specific type of luck: the cards that come on the board after you and your opponent have moved all-in.

But there still remains a number of random factors which it doesn't take into account at all. For instance when you get dealt KK vs AA many times in a row, your red line will fall like a stone even though you probably didn't do anything wrong.

this makes me feel better now

Following these lines and their difference etc. will quickly become an obsession and will create tilt. Here's an excercise: play 100 tournaments without following your results at all, whether in the tracker or in the cashier window. It requires some mind-power, but it will make you a better player.

I really appreciate your advice but it doesn't really make me tilt.. only worried if my game is still ok after I see my adjusted ROI is way lower than my actual/real ROI.. feeling I just got lucky.. but now I understand it .. It's a good indication of your game play but should not be taken too seriously right? due to not being entirely accurate.. (which is of course very difficult to do so)..

[drmcboy]

ignoring it is a great option but tough to do.

Next best thing imo:

use it to make you feel better if you ran bad

if you ran good, make sure you like the way you played the big hands well and then ignore it.