QJs mid game, flop flush, call or raise river bet?

[stardustakos]

Intial raiser new at the table, BB is 31/7. What do we do on the river? Just call? Not having the nuts makes me afraid of raising.


PokerStars - $3+$0.30|200/400 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: 34,694.00
MP: 10,196.00
CO: 12,180.00
Hero (BTN): 16,909.00
SB: 18,354.00
BB: 15,150.00

UTG posts ante 50.00, MP posts ante 50.00, CO posts ante 50.00, Hero posts ante 50.00, SB posts ante 50.00, BB posts ante 50.00, SB posts SB 200.00, BB posts BB 400.00

Pre Flop: (900.00) Hero has J Q

UTG raises to 999.00, fold, fold, Hero calls 999.00, fold, BB calls 599.00

Flop: (3497.00, 3 players) 8 5 4
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 1,200.00, BB calls 1,200.00, fold

Turn: (5897.00, 2 players) 7
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (5897.00, 2 players) Q
BB bets 2,400.00, Hero ?

[Ender]

If the river was a diamond I would call, but here you could be facing a straight or a smaller flush. I'd raise a little more than a min raise and see what the villain does.

[drmcboy]

shove now but bet the turn always, good card for him.

[fjuanl]

Flopping a flush
ODDS: 117.79 to 1. CHANCES: 1 in 118.79. PERCENT: 0.84%.

This is just for one player flopping a flush. The odds are much worse for 2 people

I'd just bet flop bet turn and shove river if the board doesn't 4flush. I also like a little bigger flop bet. Most people will still react the same vs a smaller bet; good flushdraws won't fold, 8x won't fold.

[pantherhound]

wow, it seems criminal not to try and get it in over 3 streets here against this guy. I'm running so bad in donkaments, can't hit anything, that seeing missed value like this makes me sad. You've got to bet the flop bigger, like pot or something, and then bet the turn like 2/3 because there's tons of scare cards that could come out that he might not call the river on.

[chardrian]

bet turn so you can easily gii on river.

as played I still shove river.

[stardustakos]

Yeah why on earth I checked turn I don't even remember.... I should have bet 3,750 something so I could shove the river without overbetting.