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    Default A3s $12 90man KO

    called with both players being big stacks thought i had decent implied odds, original raiser was 13/13 over 39 caller 8/5 over 39

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    NL Holdem $200(BB) Replayer
    SB ($11,400)
    Hero ($10,109)
    UTG ($2,855)
    UTG+1 ($2,020)
    UTG+2 ($2,940)
    MP1 ($11,055)
    CO ($2,840)
    BTN ($7,960)

    Dealt to Hero 3 A

    fold, fold, fold, MP1 raises to $430, fold, BTN calls $430, fold, Hero calls $230

    FLOP ($1,390) 5 K T

    hero?
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    I think I would check flop. If the pre-flop raiser leads out and BU calls, you can call and see a turn. If MP1 cbets and BU folds, then it depends. If he's cbetting every flop then you can raise and maybe take it down here. If he hasn't been that aggro post-flop, I prefer just calling because you can probably get more out of him down the road if you hit your flush. If it gets checked to the button and he bets, I just call to try and get MP1 to call as well. Seeing a turn with 3 people seems better in every situation than heads-up.

    Leading out seems okay, but I doubt you will win it very often and you might face some tough spots on the turn. Bet flop check turn on a wet board comes off as weak and barreling against one or 2 people seems iffy as well.

    I'd like to hear what the more experienced people have to say though
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    Pre is fine, I check flop with every hand. I wouldn't like leading with a made hand here because you don't have many and sometimes you would shut out BTN from putting in some dead money (when it would go cbet, BTN call, you c/r)
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    we need to get past the shame of playing suited aces...

    I play almost every suited Ace that I can from MP on at these blind levels, and I like it.
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
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    k, so i did check flop MP cbet 1000, BTN folded, i c/r to ~2600, MP shoved.

    so i guess i have to call getting like 1.72:1

    75,240 games 0.005 secs 15,048,000 games/sec

    Board: Kc Tc 5d
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 45.205% 45.13% 00.07% 33959 53.50 { Ac3c }
    Hand 1: 54.795% 54.72% 00.07% 41174 53.50 { QQ+, TT, 55, AKs, KTs+, QJs, AKo, KTo+, QJo }

    plus maybe some worse FD's



    this just seemed bad getting my whole stack in a marginal spot.
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    It's kind of shitty because vs. a tight EP we're not going to have A outs often and sometimes not the 5c but with 8 clean outs to the stone-cold nuts I don't see how we can fold.

    This is the turbo 90-man KOs, right? Generally we're going to put it in in so many marginal spots as the blinds get bigger it can't be a big mistake (if at all) to gamble here.
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
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    yes its a $12 90 man KO.

    yea i don't think i can fold, after i c/r. but that made me wonder if i should of c/r at all or even of got involved, just seemed gross to me, but i guess sorta standard.
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    I agree suited aces are some nice hands. However, being that we are in the BB and playing OOP multiway makes me not want to play these suited aces. Granted you probably have goods odds to play with them here since villain is making a 2.3x BB raise which is pretty retarded.

    Id c/c flop and id be okay with donking but you're going to have to fold to a raise. So keep the pot small and c/c and that way hopefully it will bring in both villains.
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    flip when called, sometimes win pot without showdown, not marginal.
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    I would much rather be the one shoving here not calling
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    Quote Originally Posted by vaks View Post
    I would much rather be the one shoving here not calling
    if i c/ shove, my hands pretty face up as a draw IMO

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