Killing Time

[supa]

I'm having a hard time finding a balance between life, poker, and actually learning how to play poker. When I have to choose to push one to the side (which is often) it's always studying that gets the cold shoulder. One reason is the fact that I'm a hands on type of student. I just learn things easier when I'm doing them. Another is that I'd rather be playing than studying. I simply have fun playing poker. So for a little while I'm gonna quit stressing on getting better and beating stakes and have some fun.

Through reading Robbs op I was turned on to nano husngs and I've been having alot of fun doing it. I'm not crushing anything there but I am having a good time. I'm winning a bit even tho I'm dealing with a little runbad (or run not so great anyway) and my br can handle some losses here as I'm prolly rolled for a few stakes higher. I think I’ll also learn a few things from it.

I'm really only starting this op so I can have a place to post some hands and shit and not clutter up Robbs with my lame crap.

I think I had a bunch more to talk about in this first post but I guess I lost it. Must be time to go play a few games. Hopefully something intelligent will come to me later.

Have fun!

[Carroters]

Poker is not fun....it's very srs bznz indeed.

[Carroters]

With spam aside, good luck in becoming a balla sir.

[HarleyGuy13]

supahaole glad to see you're starting an op bro. I enjoy it when I run into you on the tables. The game should be fun otherwise what the hell is the sense in even playing the damn game. I've never really played it because I hoped to get rich but because I just love the damn game. I'd like to learn to play it well mainly because well when your an ole fucker it's cool to learn shit. Now don't get me wrong if someday poker will pay to rebuild the hog that would be cool!

I'll be following your progress.

[!Luck]

Good luck man.

[CBAT]

supahaole glad to see you're starting an op bro. I enjoy it when I run into you on the tables.

Harley callin out the fish!

j/k! GL! Honestly, in my opinion, playing a controlled amount of tables is the best thing for you. Something where you can rationally think through your decisions. This # is different for many people. And when you run into sticky spots, find someone who is better than you and may know the reg and get their advice on the hand.

GL!

[supa]

Poker is not fun....it's very srs bznz indeed.

LDO!

Harley callin out the fish!

Oh no you didn't

Had a decent session this morning other than giving supahaole a stack on a stupid semi-bluff. I perceived him as playing back at me on my blind stealing so after like the third time and catching 2nd pair I just knew he was fucking with me. NOT he had it. Well guess if you're going to spew might as well be to a fellow FTR mate!

In Harleys defence I was playing back at him pretty hard. Playing with someone that you know is taking learning srsly and is going thru the same learning curves as you makes the play step up to a higher level. It steps out of the micro mentality for a while and into higher levels of thinking, which to me is cool as fuck cos we don't get to go there very often. Even if we we're able to play at those higher levels of thinking, it wouldn't necessarily be correct in most situations at say 2 or 5nl imo.

More to come on that cos this is really what this op is all about.

[!Luck]

Move up so I can level you.

K, thanks.

[supa]

I've taken a couple shots at 10nl at 25 buys. I haven't come close to beating 5 yet (breakeven I think, actually beating everything but the rake) but a vid I watched at gs said to skip 5nl. I think I lost 4 buys there. No biggee, there are to many things I need to work on before I even want to move up.

Some of those I'm gonna address in this op and I think these hu matches are gonna help.

The most obvious are:

[ ] Putting villain on a goddamn range
[ ] Planning hands
[ ] Taking notes
[ ] Knowing when to fold

After all this time you'd think I'd be at least a little savvy at these things but the truth is these very basic skills have eluded me (or I've eluded them) since day one. I guess this is mostly due to a major lack of discipline. I can 16 table 2nl at a winrate of ~10bb/100 without ever really thinking about villains range, but obv that's not gonna work at higher levels. I can prolly tweak my play a little and do the same thing a 5nl, but I'm never really gonna learn the skills needed to beat 200nl this way.

These are things I can attack at heads up I think. 1 table, 1 villain and 1 game. The hope is that I can learn to formulate a plan or range here and move up and pwn your asses on the way up to 1000nl.

[Robb]

These are things I can attack at heads up I think. 1 table, 1 villain and 1 game. The hope is that I can learn to formulate a plan or range here and move up and pwn your asses on the way up to 1000nl.

I like one-tabling HU. I can do it without a HUD, so it's EZ game on vacation. Also, you really concentrate on each hand, how to read a villain's game, and how to maximally exploit him. You know that he can catch some cards and beat you, but you also know that if you play perfectly, he's unlikely to manage it.

I would be careful. HU teaches you to play really loose and aggressive, and even 6max feels nitty after it. You may destroy some of the TAGG in your game for FR and 6max by playing HU.

Still, I was calculating perspective win rates. If I manage a 70% win rate 2 tabling with a HUD, and if HEM's estimate of 6 - 7 per HU turbo SnG is accurate over a larger sample, I should be making $5-8 / hr, not including rakeback (which is good, since rb is minimal at this game and level). I have trouble averaging that consistently at 10nl 6m.

I think HU SnG's could help me build roll, but I would like to transition back to 6max eventually. I don't know how tough it will be to go back and forth between them. That might not be the best idea. I just know this. I'm going to focus on whatever game can build roll fastest for me right now. Poker is so much more fun with a 1k BR than a $200 BR. You can earn some nice bennies in rb, points, etc. You can play in a lot more games. You can move money around, withdraw a bit and feel like it's a legitimate endeavor, not some waste-of-time hobby. And your wife, if you have one, isn't on your ass about poker when you're buying her dinner with poker $$ a couple times a month, and bringing home nice things for the kids. It all just works better when you're pwn'ing instead of spewing.

[Imthenewfish]

k dont skip 5nl because a GS vid told u to. I'm not sure if beating 2nl 16 tabling for 5BB is a brag or a beat (I kept like a 7BB winrate 24 tabling it back in like may/june? around when i joined FTR). HU is definitely really good game to learn, but it shouldnt really replace fr/6m for you. Personally i don't really like running a hud single tabling because the only stats that i get from it probably won't be accurate for the sample size i'm using, leading to me making assumptions i shouldn't be. as for hourly HU is probably going to be a lot lower than fr/6m unless you're Missy922 and can sustain a 25+BB winrate. Referring to Robbs post, $5-8 before rakeback at 10nl 6m seems doable over a large sample, as long as you arent comparing 2 tabling 6m to 2 tabling turboHUsngs

[supa]

k dont skip 5nl because a GS vid told u to.

Meh, I took a shot at 20 buys which I think most would agree isn't really bad br management. The prob was that I wasn't beating 5nl yet. The idea there was that if you're rolled for it at all that you're not gonna learn anything at 5 that you can't at 10. Prolly true for some but without disciplne and some decent study habits I shouldn't be moving anywhere.

I'm not sure if beating 2nl 16 tabling for 5BB is a brag or a beat

Beat. 16 tabling 2nl means I'm on auto pilot and barely level 1 thinking. It means I'm not taking notes and I'm not thinking about anything except the 2 cards in front of me. It's really no good for my game and it's one of the reasons I'm still at 5nl.

Brag. I'm beating something so there must be hope for me yet.

[HarleyGuy13]

Supahaole my plan is to make sure I am beating each level at a decent winrate before ever taking a shot at the next stake. In the past I have just looked at br for making my decision to either move up or not. What I found was often a stellar reward or some other bonus will boost the roll but that my skillz haven't moved along with the roll.

As for your winrate at 2nl I agree that is a good winrate. I know the kid savant likes to always question others rates but again he's a savant! 5BB/10bb is a good winrate no matter who you ask period! If I were you I would shoot for about the same rate at 5nl prior to moving up to 10nl.

[supa]

First post on my new laptop!

My wife bought it for me for xmas specifically for poker use. Should dispell the myth that all wives are not supportive of poker endeavors. She's amazingly supportive and believes that I can make something of this someday. I'm lucky to have such a beautiful and incredible person to share my life with.

Okay, enough about her. My laptop is fucking awesome. I don't know shit about computers but I love this thing. I pretty much just need to download stars and HEM and I'm good to go. For anyone that doesn't know it turns out that you can use 1 HEM serial # on up to 2 pcs so if you have a pc and a laptop you can have it on both without paying twice. This might be common knowledge but I figured I'd put it out there anyway.

Another +ev present I got is a electronic cigarette. It's basically a vaporizor, you can smoke it anywhere so I can keep grinding and not take a break every hour or so. It's cheaper than tobacco and prolly has a ton of health benefits. Starting next week I'm going to be taking a limited # of real smokes to work ween myself off of them completely, actually this is prolly the most +ev thing I ever do.

I'm kinda having a shitty time at the hu thing so I'm not gonna spend much more time on it. I really enjoy it but it's kinda tilting me right now. I don't have the time to invest in learning the game well. I'll still play some on weeknights when I don't feel like grinding but I need to focus on my goals for 2011. I'll start a new op after the new year.

[Vinland]

Havent seen you at Crush online Hold'em, do you still drop in for HH advice?

[supa]

Havent seen you at Crush online Hold'em, do you still drop in for HH advice?

I really haven't been doing any studying of anykind really over the last few months. I plan on changing that after the 1st and you'll be seeing me alot more there also. I'll get in and update my blog this weekend and hopefully start sitting in on the sweats again pretty soon. I really appreciate what McS and the crew have done there, pretty awesome bunch people.

[XTR1000]

I'm lucky to have such a beautiful and incredible person to share my life with.

Dude you can´t get away with posting such statements and not providing pics of said person. How could we ever trust you again?

On a serious note: Good luck on quitting smoking. Believe me, you´ll feel like the coolest guy on earth once you get rid of bad breath and yellow teeth and fingers.

[HarleyGuy13]

First post on my new laptop!

*My wife bought it for me for xmas specifically for poker use. Should dispell the myth that all wives are not supportive of poker endeavors. She's amazingly supportive and believes that I can make something of this someday. I'm lucky to have such a beautiful and incredible person to share my life with.

Okay, enough about her. My laptop is fucking awesome. I don't know shit about computers but I love this thing. I pretty much just need to download stars and HEM and I'm good to go. For anyone that doesn't know it turns out that you can use 1 HEM serial # on up to 2 pcs so if you have a pc and a laptop you can have it on both without paying twice. This might be common knowledge but I figured I'd put it out there anyway.

Another +ev present I got is a electronic cigarette. It's basically a vaporizor, you can smoke it anywhere so I can keep grinding and not take a break every hour or so. It's cheaper than tobacco and prolly has a ton of health benefits. Starting next week I'm going to be taking a limited # of real smokes to work ween myself off of them completely, actually this is prolly the most +ev thing I ever do.

I'm kinda having a shitty time at the hu thing so I'm not gonna spend much more time on it. I really enjoy it but it's kinda tilting me right now. I don't have the time to invest in learning the game well. I'll still play some on weeknights when I don't feel like grinding but I need to focus on my goals for 2011. I'll start a new op after the new year.

*This is the most +EV for sure. I know I struggled with my wife for awhile then I sat her down and just explained everything to her. Once she saw that I had a plan and I wasn't dumping anymore money in to the game she was totally behind me. Hell she encourages me to play when ever we're riding and stop at a casino. Although she also wants me on the craps table as much as possible. I've been very +EV at the craps table!

Dude you can´t get away with posting such statements and not providing pics of said person. How could we ever trust you again?

On a serious note: Good luck on quitting smoking. Believe me, you´ll feel like the coolest guy on earth once you get rid of bad breath and yellow teeth and fingers.

This is basically a party foul bro! Must post a pics preferably in leathers!

[Penneywize]

Another +ev present I got is a electronic cigarette. It's basically a vaporizor, you can smoke it anywhere so I can keep grinding and not take a break every hour or so. It's cheaper than tobacco and prolly has a ton of health benefits. Starting next week I'm going to be taking a limited # of real smokes to work ween myself off of them completely, actually this is prolly the most +ev thing I ever do.

Yeah... I bought two electronic cigs back in october with a very similar plan. It's possible to wean yourself off real cigs, but I'd posit it's at least 80% as hard as quitting smoking altogether. The problem is that you don't know when to stop taking puffs. Real cigarettes have carbon monoxide in them, which cause you to feel sick towards the end of a cigarette and leave you not wanting one for some time. These e-cigs don't have anything other than water vapour, some flavouring and nicotine. So you can literally sit there and 'smoke' an entire pack's worth of nicotine without feeling any need to stop.

Also - the batteries don't last too long. Expect to have to recharge at least twice per day. The way you can make this work is if you have a backup e-cig, usually the pack you order will come with a spare for this very purpose. Keep em charged.

One more thing. Don't fucking drop the batteries. They will fuck up and never work again, and you'll have to pay 50$ to replace them. This very thing happened to me and I have only one working battery left. The company refuses to replace the one I "broke" (I'm pretty sure I never dropped it, just sort of placed it on the desk next to my comp a little harder than perhaps I should have).

Good luck. I wasn't able to pull it off... though, until I broke my backup cig I did cut down to about half my normal cigarette intake. I'm planning on reordering my backup and giving it another shot. I figure if I can at least cut my normal cig consumption to about 1/4th (say 4 cigs per day) then I would be doing myself a huge favour. If I get into the habit of doing that I may actually decrease to the point where I no longer smoke real cigs. One can dream.

[supa]

This is basically a party foul bro! Must post a pics preferably in leathers!

HA!

I was gonna say that XTR had the politest way of saying tits or gtfo. I've got some artsy shit on film that I may throw in here if I find a scanner. Mostly her naked with a 13 foot snake!

[supa]

@ Penney, I defo get what you're saying. 25 year smoker here. Working in the oilfields already has my consumption down about half so with the ecig I'm down even more. My goal is to be down to 3 aday by Feb.

[supa]

New blog coming for 2011- Ballah by 2012?

Took this shot lastnite when she wasn't looking.



We'll be celebrating our 11th anniversary at the end of this month. And yes, that's a big ass tattoo on her chest.

[supa]

Reminder to self to start new blog.

[supa]

Does anyone know how to transfer HEM data from one computer to another?

[HarleyGuy13]

Does anyone know how to transfer HEM data from one computer to another?

I don't but if you go to the HEM forum and post they'll help you out. Also if you catch fat in irc he is the HEM god!

Side note: Wife is a hotty my friend! So how many tats does she have? My wife actually has more than I although mine take up a hell of a lot more flesh than hers.
I can only assume you enjoy the same things as I when you walk into a biker bar etc and it's so obvious you have the hottest gal in the joint. Let's face it bikers aren't known for having the hottest woman!

[supa]

Sippin on a glass of whiskey reflecting on this last week which has been a nice little forced vacation of sorts. Since I got laid off on friday it's been kinda gogogo but really has been one great day after another. Today has been the first time that I've got to just kick it in a while, and with the wife outta town and the kids gone to the fair with family friends that's exactly what I've been doing today, just kickin it.

Last weekend started off with a high school reunionish thing with some of my wifes old friends. Met some great people and ate and drank and danced (sorta) and had a great time.

Monday I went golfing for the first time ever. It was a fucking blast. Drank a fuckton of beer and drove around in a golfcart and smashed a little ball with a stick. Did pretty good for my first time. 68 on a par 35 (I think) front 9. Made par on a par 5 and bogey on 2 other holes so that was pretty good I guess.

Jumped in the car on wed. and drove out to vegas with the family to meet up with boog and carroters (but if you're reading this piece of crap you're obv bored and already know that from carrotz thread). The trip great fun even tho it was way budget (refer to first sentence).

Trying to play live 1/2 nlhe is comepletly stupid when your entire budget for a family trip is $600. I played horribly. It's just impossible to play well when you're scared of losing a stack. I made one of the worst folds ever, which put me on tilt so hard that had to just get up and walk away. Prolly didn't help that we went to play after pounding a bunch of beers playing one of boogs drinking games.

Went to play a donkament with carrotz after that. I felt like I played pretty good actually but got knocked out at the end of round 3 when I got tptk in against what prolly shoulda been an obv set but w/e. I had fun and I realize that I can play some local tourneys and have fun with em and maybe win some monies.

Got back into town late fri night and got up the next morning to go to the annual IBEW local 952 bbq. Got to hang out with some good friends and eat great food and drank a whole lotta fosters. Speaking of the IBEW- Boog, get in touch with me about this (sir).

Ha, somehow I hit the post this shit button so I'll finsh up on edit.

On the grind again and building a roll from nothing on cake (pfft). Right around $50 and 4 tabling 4nl. Playing like shit and not really paying enough attn but running good enough to be beating it at ~35bb/100 ftw. I'll start updating in that other thread I got coz that is the strat thread and this one is what it is.

Wat.

[supa]

I feel bad for people who don't live near an in-n-out burger.