Should people spank their kids?

[OngBonga]

Dogs know they're being punished. You smack a dog for shitting on the carpet, sooner or later he starts to understand why you're smacking him. The learning curve will be even quicker if you reward the dog for shitting outside.

It's not about pain. I was looking after a rottweiler a couple of years back, I had to give him a smack because he was howling all fucking night and disturbing the neighbours. Do I think I actually caused the dog pain when I smacked it? He was a big fucking dog. No, it didn't hurt. But he was afraid. I was rather glad he was afraid, because if he turned on me I'd have been afraid.

Fear is more effective than pain.

Can't remember the film, but it had Steven Seagal in it, and it was awful. But there was this quote, which I remember well...
"anticipation of death is worse than death itself".

Even as a kid I thought that was true.

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Dogs know they're being punished. You smack a dog for shitting on the carpet, sooner or later he starts to understand why you're smacking him. The learning curve will be even quicker if you reward the dog for shitting outside.

It's not about pain. I was looking after a rottweiler a couple of years back, I had to give him a smack because he was howling all fucking night and disturbing the neighbours. Do I think I actually caused the dog pain when I smacked it? He was a big fucking dog. No, it didn't hurt. But he was afraid. I was rather glad he was afraid, because if he turned on me I'd have been afraid.

Fear is more effective than pain.

Can't remember the film, but it had Steven Seagal in it, and it was awful. But there was this quote, which I remember well...
"anticipation of death is worse than death itself".

Even as a kid I thought that was true.

When I was young, we trained our dachshund to not shit inside by grinding her nose in it and yelling at her. None of us realized that she also never came when we called because of this. Hell, for all we know, the problems of loyalty we had with her the last several years of her life may have been related to the weird ways the brain connects neurons by seemingly unrelated things. Maybe there was a part of her that always knew we hurt her and that part aided her subconsciously when she decided to spend more time at other peoples houses than ours

So yeah, use pain and fear to train somebody and you will find unintended consequences




Here, I'll end the thread now: religious fanatics believe in spanking.

According to the Rules of Logic 101, if you agree with fanatics on controversial issues, you're wrong. It kinda is that simple, even if you still can't make sense of why. Honestly there is no better argument than this. Without this logic, I would be somewhat on the fence with the issue. But the logic never ever ever fails. It is not possible to find any controversial issue fanatics support that isn't false. Go ahead and try to find one

[Poker Orifice]

Dogs know they're being punished. You smack a dog for shitting on the carpet, sooner or later he starts to understand why you're smacking him. The learning curve will be even quicker if you reward the dog for shitting outside.

It's not about pain. I was looking after a rottweiler a couple of years back, I had to give him a smack because he was howling all fucking night and disturbing the neighbours. Do I think I actually caused the dog pain when I smacked it? He was a big fucking dog. No, it didn't hurt. But he was afraid. I was rather glad he was afraid, because if he turned on me I'd have been afraid.

Fear is more effective than pain.

Can't remember the film, but it had Steven Seagal in it, and it was awful. But there was this quote, which I remember well...
"anticipation of death is worse than death itself".

Even as a kid I thought that was true.

'Respect' goes alot further than fear or pain. Same thing with kids imo.